Real troubles with layout

[osp2]

Hi,

first of all I should mention it, that I am not english speaking, so excuse me pls for my czenglish ;-)

I already tried using Lazarus in the past, but I always was disappointed with uncomfortable using. I know that most of you like its actual layout, but I have big inconveniences with it.

I am run it on ubuntu with LXDE (desktop is up-to-date), current version of Lazarus is 9.28.2.

Finally my troubles: internal windows of lazarus IDE chaotically jump over and spontaneously resize themselves . That wasn't such a problem (it is actually too), but most annoying is, that often it is hard to gain focuse on these respective windows (ergo I cannot control them), especially of the editor. IDE editor is either maximized and other windows are upon it and I CANNOT see the text in it, all I can is manually shift windows in a way, after I can move editor on other virtual desktop, or the editor is strangly resized and scrollbars disappear - which means I can't see where is cursor, so I edit source code sightlessly - unacceptable. With other windows is the similar.

So I ask: is there any workaround to modify IDE and rebuild it to one window application like Borland Delphi and without awkward side-effects (I mean, is lazarus designed well enough to avoid faults?).

[Ocye]

I haven't any problem with aligning of Lazarus windows (Linux, Gtk2). AFAIK, Delphi utilizes the same window concept and no single device interface as you said. Maybe you are interested in MSEide: http://www.msegui.org/ - even if multi device as well.

[Leledumbo]

Well, I haven't tried it with LXDE. So far, my Kubuntu (KDE) runs Lazarus very well. To my knowledge, at least KDE and Gnome have no problems.

[Martin_fr]

http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,7005.0.html
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,6307.0.html

[osp2]

I am sorry for very long unresponsiveness, but I tried IDE what have someone of you suggest MSEide+MSGui.

It was incredible fast, but managing of projects was awkward - it threw at me errors, that cannot compile (missing unit or something). It works only from template.

And there were another problem (what I have found up to now) - impossibility to create tmainmenu (just don't working), and despite good window handling as compared with lazarus, this ide is not very useful for biggest projects (dummy editor cannot much). In other hands I like its minimalism and speed, so I will play with it in future. Thanks for hint.

As to my original problem I find "solution", just everytime I need send focus on window in background or invoked window from menu I must run project and somehow after termination running app windows work properly.

Once again I am sorry for ignorance on your replies.

[osp2]

Funny, I want to create new post in other part of this forum (Editor), because I want to ask if is there similar utility like was in delphi - autocompletion. And now I can see that probably is, BUT it is hide under other windows and my "solution" doesn't work - any click closes completion window.

BTW. this hiding of windows (like executed stops, windows from menu etc.) is here all the time

;-) I think I am done with this IDE for another long time - too bad, it looks like really hopefully

Good luck with further development and please improve user interface

[Ocye]

Shouldn't you be done with LXDE? Seriously, if you are the only one reporting that kind of problem it must depend on your OS. It runs well with Gnome (GTK2) under Ubuntu, and some time ago I used successfully Arch Linux with Xfce.

[osp2]

Ok, I try switch desktop and really problem is in LXDE (respective Openbox). Lazarus finaly works in Gnome and Xfce.

But I think that is worth to check up why lazarus doesn't cooperate with standard-compliant window manager.

[mse]

It was incredible fast, but managing of projects was awkward - it threw at me errors, that cannot compile (missing unit or something). It works only from template.

Please ask questions about MSEide+MSEgui on NNTP:
news://news.grid-sky.com/public.mseide-msegui.talk
or the web interface:
http://msegui.org/fudforum/

And there were another problem (what I have found up to now) - impossibility to create tmainmenu (just don't working),

http://wiki.freepascal.org/MSEide_&_MSEgui#Adding_a_Main_Menu

and despite good window handling as compared with lazarus, this ide is not very useful for biggest projects (dummy editor cannot much).

MSEide+MSEgui is used in production with projects of some 100'000 lines.

Martin

[osp2]

To mse: I followed instruction precisely and still no main menu in app, but this is Lazarus forum so let stop at that. Just for interest - these 100 000 lines projects - is there some list of them with screenshots or websites (I am interested what can be done with this ide - lazarus does have topic on wikipedia).

[Martin_fr]

http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Projects_using_Lazarus
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_Application_Gallery

[osp2]

To Martin_fr: That example app list was thought for MSEide ;-), though cool inspiring links

[mse]

is there some list of them with screenshots or websites (I am interested what can be done with this ide - lazarus does have topic on wikipedia).

There is a small and outdated chapter in the Wiki. Please have a look into the MSEide+MSEgui newsgroup.