FPC releases and A.I

[backprop]

Talking too much about AI as a "self-sufficient programmer" is quite funny topic. Maybe it is "good enough" (I would vomit, though ) to gather and process a lot of data, there is no "I" of IQ and really understanding anything, except to mimic some human behavior and "look smart", but can't really do anything complex than that.

I know many cases where is blindly trusted to AI and Google map which ended in serious accident, life danger situations, penalties or simply lost vacation... Many naive people trust to AI, thinking it is smarter than themselves, but actually, all is quite fuzzy and still on childish level.

[Joanna]

Most likely their agenda is simply: making money, as much of it as possible.  It's a very common agenda.

The fact that their number one goal is making money by any means possible regardless of what happens to people using their AI is all the more reason to avoid ai.
The agenda is to take the realm of programming and understanding how things work away from people by tempting them with “this amazing AI magic that will do all the work”

This is all happening as there are literally laws being created to restrict people’s access to computers  that they have already bought. If nothing is done to stop this, eventually everyone will need to provide government ID to identify who is using the computer.

After what I have seen over the years it would not surprise me at all if someday the governments are deciding what programming languages that can be used and for pascal not to be amongst them…

[440bx]

The agenda is to take the realm of programming and understanding how things work away from people by tempting them with “this amazing AI magic that will do all the work”

That could be said about Delphi and Lazarus (and C# + .net too of course.)

There are a good number of Delphi and Lazarus users that use components they have no idea how they get their job done and, that's one most salient reasons why those programmers use Delphi and Lazarus (and C# and .net.)

What I'm getting at here is that you are on that bus while condemning its destination.  Apparently, you didn't realize that.

I hope you don't use Windows because that's the premier "we want your money" piece of software.

[Joanna]

That’s a poor excuse to outsource anything to any company that makes Ai.

If programming has become so tedious and boring that you want to have a robot do it for you, maybe it’s time to seek a more interesting hobby. 

[Curt Carpenter]

That’s a poor excuse to outsource anything to any company that makes Ai.

If programming has become so tedious and boring that you want to have a robot do it for you, maybe it’s time to seek a more interesting hobby. 

A lot of programming IS tedious and boring.  Searching through the docs. for an answer, for example, or trying to "peel the onion" of a object that has three or four levels of nested objects.  I can imagine a day when we will each have a personalized AI-based programming assistant to help with that sort of thing (and remember the answer we found four years ago but forgot).  (Don't underestimate the "remember" part:  it gets worse the older you get.)

[Joanna]

That problem of forgetting things does indeed exist but finding an old answer from years ago reinforces your memory.

If you were using AI you wouldn’t even remember writing something years ago because you would not have written it to begin with.

If the tedious and frustrating aspects of programming are no longer worth the effort maybe a new hobby would be more fun. Seriously.

[Weiss]

interesting discussion, fellas. To me, AI allows to peek over the more experienced programmers' shoulder. I have seen AI giving me recommended way of dealing with the problem, and then I was finding similar (practically same) code on github, with same variable names and function calls etc. AI is a shameless plagiarist, and to me this is its main feature. All AI's versions are trained to speak soft and pleasant, but reading between the lines it tells me where my code in inefficient, unprofessional, bulky etc.

[Martin_fr]

Thanks for the contribution.

Please keep AI discussions (on this forum) related to Pascal.

The legal and moral issues are considered a broader issue (as important as they may be) and should best be discussed in places dedicated to them.

[domasz]

Just my 3 cents- I found AI useful when dealing with badly documented or non-documented classes, packages and units. Sometimes it hallucinates and reports, for example, methods not available in a class. But once I point that out the AI gives correct methods.