Grokipedia v0.1 and Free Pascal.

[MarkMLl]

As for Grokipedia itself, pretty clear that Elon just wants a version of wikipedia that he has complete control of. Its political, not technical.

There's a significant personal element, see the links I posted discussing his family etc.

It appears that various people are suggesting that he's playing fast and loose with Wp's licensing terms in not making the data he's using available unchanged (i.e. so that an audit trail can be established).

MarkMLl

[PascalDragon]

And regarding the purpose of Grokipedia, of course it's political.

Then why are you supporting this unnecessary, power hungry project from this rightwing narcissist? 🙄

[Fred vS]

And regarding the purpose of Grokipedia, of course it's political.

Then why are you supporting this unnecessary, power hungry project from this rightwing narcissist? 🙄

I dont support this narcissist, I simply mentioned that FreePascal had been implemented (by copying the Wikipedia article) in its 0.1 version.
(But it's always better to have a right wing if you're building rockets, even better to have both.)


PS: I don't have a left-right political opinion; what matters to me is respect for others.

[Fred vS]

Sven, I apologize, it was a bad idea to create this topic.
If it is possible to delete it, please do so.

 

Fred.

[440bx]

Grokipedia... the blend of genuine stupidity and artificial intelligence.  Another impressive monument to transfinite mediocrity. 

I've come to believe that Einstein, in addition to the talents he demonstrated, was also an exceptionally talented diplomat because when he obliquely mentioned human stupidity is infinite, he purposely and grossly understated the magnitude of the problem.

q.e.d... maybe the "e" in q.e.d stands for "elon".

[Fred vS]

q.e.d... maybe the "e" in q.e.d stands for "elon".

Aargh, 440bx, it's stronger than me, every time someone attacks someone else, I can't help but defend them, even if they're wrong. 

Elon is full of flaws, narcissism is his least significant one.
But I prefer to focus on his few undeniable qualities.

And I admit that his latest "inventions" (X, Grokipedia, even his Starlink galaxy) are not my favorites.

Amen.

[440bx]

I understand where you're coming from.  For many years I adopted the same view.

Unfortunately, there is such a thing as showing too much tolerance for what is _wrong_ and, in the long run, the consequences are very detrimental to good people, which is unacceptable.   For that reason, I have a better opinion of decomposed organic matter than I do of him and the likes of him.

Too much tolerance gets abused and, these people can't wait to abuse any you make the mistake of showing them and, if you don't show them tolerance for their repugnant behavior they whine and whine and whine.  They'll get my tolerance back when, and if, they demonstrate that they care about more than just themselves.  I'm probably more likely to see airports for flying pigs than that.

Anyway... that's the last I'll say about it.  Obviously, this has nothing to do with Pascal or programming and doesn't belong here but, it is necessary to make the point so those who support that kind of behavior  know it doesn't go unnoticed.

[Fred vS]

I understand your point of view and actually share it.

But if many (if not all) artists, entrepreneurs, and creators manage to 'achieve great things,' it's also thanks to their ego.

Bill Gates isn't a saint, but it's undeniable that Microsoft has changed a lot of things.
The same goes for Steve Jobs and his "me, me, me" attitude; Apple still exists.

And speaking of Elon, I'm not sure he's the worst.
And if he manages to arrange for his Starship to quickly return to the moon and Mars, I'm ready to forgive him a lot.

What's fascinating is that all these elites, these billionaires, always need to seek more power even though they are already overpowerful.

But, okay, all of this isn't very Pascal-like.

[marcov]

But I prefer to focus on his few undeniable qualities.

Being good in creating kids?

Anyway people should be judged on what they actually do, not on what they might do.

But I have the opposite problem with Elon Musk. My boss was sometimes fan boying over him, so I naturally fell in the role of the opposite.  You can imagine the counter arguments like  "So what if he just happened to be in the right place at the right moment, with the right amount of money? Then it was not a stroke of genius"

Anyway the fore sight of starting Tesla as electric car (and in the USA with its higher wages!) and the creation of the battery factory are somewhat admirable features.

The reusable rockets of SpaceX are close to being one, but only time will tell if the economics really work out.  Having started one of the early companies that formed Paypal is another, the rest is harder to spin as positive IMHO.

However even some of those positives need constant adjustment.  Tesla got in a slump. Old lineup, decreasing sales, Cybertrunk miscalculation, and share value (200 times earnings) based on auto driving and other vaporware (and probably Trump relations) rather than on what they really do.

[Khrys]

And if he manages to arrange for his Starship to quickly return to the moon and Mars, I'm ready to forgive him a lot.

Forgive him for being a oligarchic billionaire chud who takes credit for work that other people do whilst being a notoriously unpleasant micromanager?

What's fascinating is that all these elites, these billionaires, always need to seek more power even though they are already overpowerful.

Yes, I agree that cancer is fascinating 

[ccrause]

Sven, I apologize, it was a bad idea to create this topic.
If it is possible to delete it, please do so.

Fred, I do not think this topic should be deleted purely because here is a wide range of reactions to it.  The topic was posted in Miscellaneous > Other and mentioned a reference to Free Pascal so it is completely on topic in my opinion.  The range of comments is a reflection of the diversity of this community, not an indictment of your post.

[Fred vS]

Fred, I do not think this topic should be deleted purely because here is a wide range of reactions to it.

Thanks ccrause but I dont see a wide range of reactions, only hateful reactions that actually betray a lot of jealousy (and just as much ego as the person they are accusing).

Peace please (and love if if that's even possible).

Fre;D

[MarkMLl]

Thanks ccrause but I dont see a wide range of reactions, only hateful reactions that actually betray a lot of jealousy (and just as much ego as the person they are accusing).

Pax vobiscum.

I'd like to make a couple of things clear. I have a great deal of respect for what Elon Musk has achieved, even if

i) while his ability to motivate employees is unarguable, the way he treats people who burn out or make mistakes is- to be charitable- unrecorded.

ii) He has made some spectacular mistakes when getting too deeply involved with the technical side of his businesses.

He has the makings of a classic James Bind villain: The Universe tells him something isn't possible, and he flips.

His expressed interest in Mars is a distraction NO CARRIER