Lazarus Xfce Edition

[Nicole]

I could not work with Lazarus on Linux Minut 22.1 Cinnamon.
It installed, but was unusable. Who wants details, can read my posts.
I left it alone.

My question: What about
Linux Mint 22.1
Xfce Edition
?

A rumour said, this would work, however it is just a rumour.
Is somebody fine with it?

[Thaddy]

Skip mint. I do not understand that distro except for the ...
Any other distribution is just fine and I will glad to be of help.

[WooBean]

Skip mint. I do not understand that distro except for the ...
Any other distribution is just fine and I will glad to be of help.

Did you mean Mate?

[Thaddy]

  No.

[Nicole]

No, not Mat, XFCE:
https://linuxmint.com/download.php

I found one sentence, that xfce would work fine. It is said to be simpler and more robust than Cinnamon.
Not sure, if this is true.

What is irritating to me, is the outdated interface of Mint: Who wants to use Firebird 3?! Firebird 5 is stable, Firebird 4 has a lot of extremely useful features. And Mint offers 3? And so much more of outdated software. Do not misunderstand me, I am a fan of approved things. However, approved is not that old.

[wp]

Having Mint XFCE on a 20-year-old notebook, no problem.

[robert rozee]

i've been doing development using Lazarus/FPC on multiple machines running Linux Mint XFCE for a number of years without any issues. found it to always be extremely stable.


cheers,
rob   :-)

[wp]

What is irritating to me, is the outdated interface of Mint: Who wants to use Firebird 3?! Firebird 5 is stable, Firebird 4 has a lot of extremely useful features. And Mint offers 3? And so much more of outdated software. Do not misunderstand me, I am a fan of approved things. However, approved is not that old.

I'm not a Linux specialist. But it seems that this is the inheritage of Debian which is very conservative in software selection.

If you are looking for newer versions you could test Manjaro Linux in a VM. I was surprised that they have the latest Lazarus release version out of the box (but be warned: package installation not done by "apt" here, but by "pamac")

[PierceNg]

I used Mint Xfce previously then switched to Xubuntu. No problem with various versions of Lazarus GTK2 on Xubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 22.04. On 22.04 I also have Lazarus qt5.

I don't install pre-packaged Lazarus. I git clone then build in place.

[dbannon]

No, not Mat, XFCE:

What is irritating to me, is the outdated interface of Mint: Who wants to use Firebird 3?! Firebird 5 is stable,

Nicole, I am unsure what your problem is. If its that Linux Mint uses Firebird 3 instead of 5, thats absolutely nothing to do with the desktop (ie Cinnamon v. XFCe), either will be getting its Firebird from the same Linux Mint repo, its 3.

You could be, perhaps, be thinking of using the "Debian Edition of Linux Mint", cannot remember it correct name, its based directly on Debian Stable (and used XFCe) compared to eg 22.1 which is based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian Unstable. But, no, that will not help either, the current Debian Stable, Bookworm has Firebird 3. Interestingly, even Trixie the forthcoming release has Firebird 3 and 4. (just hit Hard Freeze by the way). Even Debian Experimental has Firebird 4, no sign of 5.

So, if you want Firebird 5 on any debian based machine, you need to install it directly from Firebird, maybe they have packages, maybe you will need to build from source. (You might find some third party packages, I'd suggest its risky.)

You could install Debian Trixie (as a pre-release or wait a couple of months,who knows ?) and that will get Firebird 4. The most recent short term Ubuntu (U25.04 ?) may have taken 4 from Debian Unstable, don't now, short term releases are too, er short term ?   

If you are having some other problem using Lazarus on Cinnamon, need to tell us what, I just built a Linux Mint 22.1 Cinnamon VM, only thing I changed was switched to light theme, ran all updates. FPC324 and Lazarus 4.0 runs perfectly.

(I am very short of disk space so will need to remove that VM before long. No pressure.)

Davo

[Zvoni]

The really important Question is: Is it Linux Mint based on Ubuntu, or Mint based on Debian?
Because if it's Debian based then it would explain the "old" Software in the repo.

Everything said: Never had any problems with Lazarus and Cinnamon (though i'm running Cinnamon on Manjaro)

[dbannon]

The really important Question is: Is it Linux Mint based on Ubuntu, or Mint based on Debian?
Because if it's Debian based then it would explain the "old" Software in the repo.

No, not really. Linux Mint 22.1 has Firebird 3, that is because its based on Ubuntu 24.04. Ubuntu 24.04 was based on a  Debian Testing, early 2024 or late 2023. Linux Mint DE is based on Debian Bookworm, it also has Firebird 3, it was based on Debian Testing mid 2023.  I guess back in 2023, Firebird 3 was cool ?

If you want the stability of a long term release, don't expect to find fresh software in the repos, get used to getting critical software another way. It usually is pretty easy, would take a lot less time than this discussion.

Or use a short term distro.

Davo

[CM630]

It works on VirtualBox.
Did you get Lazarus from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/Lazarus%20Linux%20amd64%20DEB/Lazarus%204.0/
The Linux XFCE seems to crash sometimes - the window manager or whatever seems to restart sometimes... or maybe it autolocks, not sure.

[cdbc]

Hi
Just FYI, we've got Lazarus 4.0 in the software repo, here in PCLinuxOS
But Firebird is also version 3.0
...but we can kindly notify (ask politely) 'Texstar', to update it to the latest released version and it will be there in a couple of weeks -- How cool is that... 
Regards Benny

[dbannon]

or download Firebird 5 from here -
https://www.firebirdsql.org/en/firebird-5-0-2/#linux-x64
?

Davo