This is me back in Lazarus after looking at Python for 2 days

[TBMan]

Are they kidding me? Text indentation effects execution of statements?

[Handoko]

Me too, ever tried Python and felt weird about it. I could understand that would ensure code readability. But personally, Pascal is very readable in my eyes.

[MarkMLl]

Are they kidding me? Text indentation effects execution of statements?

No: they're not kidding, and they defend that syntactic layout with the same zeal that Pascal devotees use for some of its questionable design decisions.

However over the years they've put a lot of effort into thinking through the internal semantics, and the internal documentation- which for my sins I've worked through in some detail- is good.

We might not like it, but neither can we dismiss it :-/

MarkMLl

[DelphiFreak]

I do not touch programming languages which are case-sensitive.....

[JD]

Are they kidding me? Text indentation effects execution of statements?

  Nope. And they love it that way. I also had to learn Python and the text indentation matter was a problem until I started coding in IDEs (e.g. Visual Studio Code) with rainbow indentation enabled. Then you can see the indentation better than when using a plain text editor for coding.

However, Lazarus/FPC is still by far my go-to tool for creating native compiled applications and that is not likely to change since I don't have time to learn the shiny new tools like Go and/or Rust.

Cheers,

JD

[TBMan]

Are they kidding me? Text indentation effects execution of statements?

  Nope. And they love it that way. I also had to learn Python and the text indentation matter was a problem until I started coding in IDEs (e.g. Visual Studio Code) with rainbow indentation enabled. Then you can see the indentation better than when using a plain text editor for coding.

However, Lazarus/FPC is still by go-to tool for creating native compiled applications and that is not likely to change since I don't have time to learn the shiny new tools like Go and/or Rust.

Cheers,

JD

I downloaded Visual Studio Code (thanks!) and I'll keep chipping away at it. I would like to learn C as well, but the compiler and IDE I found is quirky.

[dbannon]

Are they kidding me? Text indentation effects execution of statements?

Try writing a makefile !  Far worse.

Davo

[Handoko]

Never try writing a makefile but what the worst to me is JavaScript:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXOChLn5ZdQ

[JD]

I downloaded Visual Studio Code (thanks!) and I'll keep chipping away at it. I would like to learn C as well, but the compiler and IDE I found is quirky.

You're welcome. Be aware that JetBrain's PyCharm IDE also has a rainbow indentation plugin https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/13308-indent-rainbow. The (limited) community version of Pycharm is still free.

I've tried free C IDEs like Code::Blocks, CodeLite and Dev C++ (which was actually written in Delphi and is now a product of Embarcadero) in the past. The funny thing is I started with Dev C++ with wxWidgets plugin to build applications. When I saw that Dev C++ was written in Delphi, it made me want to check Delphi out. I then jumped to Delphi development since it was easier to build applications in Delphi than with Dev C++/wxWidgets. Then some years later, I learned about Lazarus/FPC and I jumped ship again. 

The shiniest C IDEs are RAD Studio C++, JetBrains CLion and the Qt platform. Not free so the choice is yours.

Cheers,

JD

[TBMan]

I downloaded Visual Studio Code (thanks!) and I'll keep chipping away at it. I would like to learn C as well, but the compiler and IDE I found is quirky.

You're welcome. Be aware that JetBrain's PyCharm IDE also has a rainbow indentation plugin https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/13308-indent-rainbow. The (limited) community version of Pycharm is still free.

I've tried free C IDEs like Code::Blocks, CodeLite and Dev C++ (which was actually written in Delphi and is now a product of Embarcadero) in the past. The funny thing is I started with Dev C++ with wxWidgets plugin to build applications. When I saw that Dev C++ was written in Delphi, it made me want to check Delphi out. I then jumped to Delphi development since it was easier to build applications in Delphi than with Dev C++/wxWidgets. Then some years later, I learned about Lazarus/FPC and I jumped ship again. 

The shiniest C IDEs are RAD Studio C++, JetBrains CLion and the Qt platform. Not free so the choice is yours.

Cheers,

JD

I forgot that I had found Pelle C. I'd have to dive into the windows api because so far I haven't found anything like a wrapper to simulate Borland's bgi, but to learn the basics of C it's good.

[Weiss]

I do not touch programming languages which are case-sensitive.....

It is not bad if all your languages are case-sensitive. You take it necessary evil. I remember C#, wasn't too bad. But as soon as you add Pascal to the mix...