lazarus in new england

[crownfield]

I am in new england.
is anyone else here?

sometimes I would love to be able to talk to someone
who understands and has used lazarus.

[jamie]

Yes, I am in New England.

[VTwin]

I am about 30 miles from New England.

[jamie]

I am ~ 45 minutes from Long Island.

[wildfire]

We've been trying to get rid of old England for decades, you can take them if you want... Bound to be a few Lazarus users down there.

[Thaddy]

I am ~ 45 minutes from Long Island.

Oh, stolen from the Dutch? Or was it traded with Brazil? Don't remember. 

[korba812]

Oh, stolen from the Dutch? Or was it traded with Brazil? Don't remember. 

Stolen by Dutch and later treaded with English?

[valdir.marcos]

I am ~ 45 minutes from Long Island.

Oh, stolen from the Dutch? Or was it traded with Brazil? Don't remember. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Netherland

https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-dutch-in-new-england-more-than-sinterklaas-and-koekjes/

https://minnstate.pressbooks.pub/ushistory1/chapter/new-england-opinion-of-the-dutch-1653/

https://history.nycourts.gov/legal-history-by-era/new-york-under-dutch-rule/

The Dutch played a significant, though often overlooked, role in early New England history, extending far beyond the well-known legacy of New Amsterdam (modern-day New York). Dutch traders were active along the New England coast as early as 1598, seeking beaver pelts for Europe’s booming hat trade.  They established trading posts and forts in areas that are now Connecticut, Rhode Island, Maine, and Vermont, including Fort Hope in Hartford, Fort Roduins (Red Dunes) at the Housatonic River, and a post on Dutch Island in Jamestown, Rhode Island.

Despite overlapping claims with English colonies, the Dutch maintained strong trade relationships with early New England settlers. Plymouth and Massachusetts colonists relied heavily on Dutch traders for essential goods like tools, cheese, cannon, livestock, and salt—especially during the English Civil War (1642–1651), when trade with England collapsed.  The Dutch also taught the Pilgrims how to use wampum, and Dutch merchants bought tobacco from Plymouth Colony.

Rhode Island had particularly close ties with Dutch traders, with figures like Richard Smith, Jr. building Smith’s Castle in North Kingstown—a fortified home that now hosts events celebrating Dutch influence.  The Dutch claimed parts of Downeast Maine and Connecticut, and even attempted to colonize Rhode Island, naming it Roode Eylandt ("Red Island").

The Dutch presence left lasting cultural and economic marks: Dutch currency was used in Massachusetts, Leyden Street in Plymouth commemorates the Pilgrims’ time in Leiden, and New York’s blue, white, and orange colors trace back to the Dutch Prinsenvlag.  The Dutch were the first to recognize American independence on November 16, 1776, and their influence persists in place names, architecture, and the multicultural foundation of New York City.

https://g1.globo.com/pe/pernambuco/noticia/2021/03/18/como-23-judeus-expulsos-de-recife-ajudaram-a-fundar-nova-york.ghtml

The Dutch invasion of Northeast Brazil, which lasted from 1630 to 1654, created an environment of relative religious freedom for Jews who, fleeing persecution by the Inquisition in the Iberian Peninsula, had settled in Holland. Many of these Jews were brought to Brazil by the Dutch, especially to Recife, where they formed an active community in commerce, engineering, and culture, including the construction of the first synagogue in the Americas, Kahal Zur Israel.

However, with the expulsion of the Dutch by Portugal in 1654, the Jews of Recife faced an ultimatum: leave the territory or face the Inquisition. Approximately 600 Jews boarded the ship Valk with the aim of returning to Holland. After a storm, looting by pirates, and imprisonment in Jamaica (a Spanish colony), only 23 survivors managed to reach the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam (present-day New York) in September 1654.

Although they did not found New York—the city already existed as a trading post—these Jews formed the first Jewish community in North America and played a fundamental role in its development, contributing to the creation of the New York Stock Exchange and the Chamber of Commerce. The legend that they "founded" the city is more of a cultural myth than a historical fact, fueled by Pernambuco nostalgia and the symbolic importance of their trajectory.