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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #90 on: July 05, 2025, 12:44:11 pm »
Well, basically, I just wanted to update the Free Pascal website. In the end, I unintentionally created hatred and set people against each other. I think it's still a useful discussion to clear up your differences, but we're getting further and further away from each other. Pascal users are dwindling in number, and what's more, we're arguing among ourselves. How can we evolve to bring this language to the top? Pascal deserves its place on the same level as C or Rust. However, over time, it's lost its way, and young new programmers aren't really discovering it anymore.

Joanna, I know you doubt that I'm interested in Pascal at 14. I learned to program in Python at 10, and my father was very interested in computers when he was younger. I read an old book that taught me how to use Turbo Pascal, and I created my first Pascal programs around the age of 12. This language is clearly one of my favorites. And yet, yes, I haven't coded a lot with it; I've only done one real project with it: a video game in the terminal. Then I moved on to something else, it's true. But it stayed in my heart, and I regretted giving it up when I learned languages ​​in the same category as Pascal, like C. I personally use several programming languages ​​because I'm young and I think it'll make it easier for me to find work as an adult. But when I want to do systems programming or when I want to create an application in the terminal, I systematically turn to Pascal for its syntax and simplicity.

I don't have the skills to directly help develop tools like FPC, but if I can help the community with something, I will. And I thought renovating the website was a good idea to help modernize the language a little. I may have been wrong, and if so, you have my sincere apologies.

I think if Pascal isn't as popular as it was at a certain time, which I didn't even know about, it's because there's nothing to support the language. I mean, C, for example, is supported by Linux and operating system development. But Pascal doesn't seem to have a very specific domain. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think there's anything it excels in, except algorithms. You might say it's a general-purpose language, but then, all languages ​​are general-purpose in this case. I'm thinking about an area that would be interesting to develop so that Pascal could become truly useful. Perhaps web development would be where it could excel, by creating the right libraries and tools.

I hope to hear your feedback, without any hatred. We need to work together to bring this language to light. I feel like I'm giving orders, and that's not what I want to do. I apologize if this message offends anyone on this forum in any way; that's absolutely not the message I want to convey.

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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #91 on: July 05, 2025, 02:13:49 pm »
Wilrakov pascal has changed a lot since turbo pascal. if you Are truly serious about pascal you would write programs with it.  and I’m sure that that would involve many posts and threads getting help here. I’ve been waiting for years to meet a newbie to help with pascal..

Wilrakov

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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #92 on: July 05, 2025, 02:47:17 pm »
Joanna, I assure you that I love Pascal. Besides, if you've read my posts, you know that I'm currently working on a library to create beautiful interfaces in the terminal, directly in Pascal. I know that everything has changed since Turbo Pascal, I realized it quite quickly when I wanted to put into practice what I was learning. But yes, I'm not a genius programmer in Pascal, I admit it. It's not the language I've used the most. Your argument about the fact that if I were really interested in Pascal, I would have already asked for help on this forum is rather well found, but I can justify myself on that too. To tell the truth, I was on the Free Pascal site for the first time when I started this thread, because to install FPC, I used APT on Linux. When I have a problem, I often ask the AI. I know it's wrong, but hey, that's how I've always done it. Won't you give me just a little bit of a chance, considering I'm coding in Pascal? I understand your concerns, but you're mistaken about me, I can promise you that. I'll release my library, and then maybe you'll believe me...

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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #93 on: July 05, 2025, 02:59:43 pm »
Well, basically, I just wanted to update the Free Pascal website. In the end, I unintentionally created hatred and set people against each other.

Don't worry. Some discussions come up over and over again. That has nothing to do with your topic, your work, or any of it.

If any of your post (or related work) are ever outside of the scope of this forum, then an official forum moderator or admin will contacts you. And (unless you sell fake passports...), it will be most likely be a friendly explanation what is and what is not ok.

Otherwise, any Pascal related topic (including non coding topics / infrastructure / media / publicity / ... ), and even many general Programming related topics are welcome on this forum.
 (And I am stating this in my function as one of the forum Admins)


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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #94 on: July 05, 2025, 03:13:28 pm »
Wilrakov thats a lot of excuses and very little pascal discussion.
Are you not interested in pascal discussion? 
It looks like you’re advertising AI? maybe the people who create AI Need a new website  :D

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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #95 on: July 05, 2025, 03:15:38 pm »
And to add to my previous post:

No one has to defend their interest in Pascal.

Technically, it is not even a requirement. E.g. a person with no interest in Pascal of their own, can still post Pascal related information here, if it may be of interest to others.



Also, I am (both personally and as Admin) sure that those involved in this thread, have a full interest in Pascal.
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Wilrakov

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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #96 on: July 05, 2025, 03:23:49 pm »
Wilrakov thats a lot of excuses and very little pascal discussion.
Are you not interested in pascal discussion? 
It looks like you’re advertising AI? maybe the people who create AI Need a new website  :D
Joanna, you seem to keep trying to provoke me, for no reason at all. Yes, I apologize because I thought it was a good thing, but since you hold absolutely all human knowledge, you could surely explain to me how to live and how to react  ::).

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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #97 on: July 05, 2025, 03:46:12 pm »
Hehehe, Good on you Wilrakov  :D ;D

Look at that, Joanna -- You're not the only one with teeth  :P

Love your response Wilrakov  8-)
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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #98 on: July 05, 2025, 03:59:15 pm »
ADMIN NOTE:
Everyone, please, discontinue the personal "who is right about what" ....

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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #99 on: July 05, 2025, 07:20:09 pm »
I agree with you. I probably shouldn't have reacted to all her provocations, but after a while, it gets too much for me to ignore. Maybe it's a maturity issue due to my age or maybe it's just me who's the problem, I don't know. I've tried to stop the arguments several times, but Joanna just starts them again. You can block my account if you want, at least I'll be forced to stop responding. Personally, this long thread is making me sick of Pascal, because I can't help thinking about her when I'm coding in this language. Frankly, I don't know if I should continue my work in Pascal or if I should literally switch to C or a perhaps more modern language with a less aggressive and more welcoming community.

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Re: Website renovation
« Reply #100 on: July 05, 2025, 08:03:48 pm »
It happens. It ends when a moderator kicks in. Since you were directly affected, I let your reply stand.

All others, as I said: The topic is the website.

Other/Further replies not regarding the website will be removed. And may have consequence for their authors, depending on severity.
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