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What is a status of fpGUI and MSEGUI?
Dibo:
Hi,
I know fpGUI and MSEGUI very well from past times. After 14 years of career I finally have some spare time and want to start some open source projects, last was BGRA Controls and I see that it was forked and successively developed by lainz and circular, thank you guys. My next project require non widgetsets (KDE/GNOME Qt/GTK) so that is a reason of this topic.
I have some questions for Graeme, creator of fpGUI but seems that newsgroup which I always used is not working anymore: http://geldenhuys.co.uk/webnews. Don't know if it is only temporary issue because it was working few months ago but last stable version was released in 2015-09-02 :(
About MSEGUI. Since Martin Schreiber passed away years ago (it was a shock for me, it was in the middle of the project based on MSEGUI so I had contact with him over newsgroup), I see that Fredvs took over the project. Fred, how it is going? Are you handling it well?
Fred vS:
--- Quote from: Dibo on January 18, 2025, 10:47:59 pm ---About MSEGUI. Since Martin Schreiber passed away years ago (it was a shock for me, it was in the middle of the project based on MSEGUI so I had contact with him over newsgroup), I see that Fredvs took over the project. Fred, how it is going? Are you handling it well?
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Hello Dibo and I am so happy to read you! ;)
MSEgui is still in the race, and it has become fpc > 3.0.0 and BGRABitmap compatible, it has new targets: OpenBSD, NetBSD, Mac (via XQuartz), plus lots of fixes and new features.
All this thanks to the wonderful and clear code of Martin and the torch taken up by Roland, Sieghard, Alexander, Codedz, Mohamed, Circular, Lainz, other friends and me.
The last release is MSEgui version 5.10.4. Apr 13, 2024.
But there are some commits after the release so better to take always last source from GitHub/Codeberg git sites.
Dibo:
It is really nice to hear that. You know what is coming? The Wayland, successor of X11. That is what I'm afraid about fpGUI and MSEGUI on linux
Fred vS:
--- Quote from: Dibo on January 19, 2025, 01:55:02 am ---It is really nice to hear that. You know what is coming? The Wayland, successor of X11. That is what I'm afraid about fpGUI and MSEGUI on linux
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Yes the IBM and RedHat team seems to win to impose their buggy-that-resolves-nothing-obsole-that-breaks-everything wonderful Wayland.
Note that XWayland (the emulator for X11) is working ok (and msegui adapted for it) and will remain for a long time in the Wayland distros.
Andrews Haines has done a prototype for fpGUI but it is not working yet.
https://github.com/graemeg/fpGUI/tree/wayland
I take inspiration of it for MSEgui and explore Wayland with this: https://github.com/fredvs/wayland-pascal
But I feel very lonely and also disappointed by the compositor-war of Wayland, you should write different code for each compositor, it is not centralized like X11.
Note also that Wayland is Linux only (not for BSD).
Dibo:
Yes, I'm aware that currently there is some kind of proxy between Wayland and X11 on all of linux apps. I can't describe it technicaly but you know what I mean. Soon or later, all apps will change to Wayland. But I'm glad that you and other maintainers of MSEGUI are aware of that. That is very promising of the future of the project and I'm happy that it is still alive :)
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