UK's Online Safety Act

[Khrys]

Isn't IRC dead?

Most of Gen Z doesn't even know what IRC is. We generally use Discord when chatting on PC, and Meta reigns supreme on mobile (Instagram, Messenger, WhatsApp).

[Joanna from IRC]

Isn't IRC dead?

Most of Gen Z doesn't even know what IRC is. We generally use Discord when chatting on PC, and Meta reigns supreme on mobile (Instagram, Messenger, WhatsApp).

who cares what “everyone” is doing? I only care about trying to do what is right. Patronizing censored anti opensource , predatory platforms like those is definitely not right..
There are thousands of other people who feel the same way...

[Khrys]

Patronizing censored anti opensource , predatory platforms like those is definitely not right..
There are thousands of other people who feel the same way...

I don't disagree, but the thousands who feel the same way are, unfortunately, a drop in the bucket compared to the billions who don't.

[MarkMLl]

I'm not taking sides on this, since it's fundamentally a row between those who (among other things) deny climate change and those who (among other things) deny gender distinction.

The bottom line is that if HMG sues you, you will need to disclose all records relevant to whether you have discussed it and have formal procedures in place before offering the service.

MarkMLl

[Thaddy]

  

[Joanna from IRC]

Patronizing censored anti opensource , predatory platforms like those is definitely not right..
There are thousands of other people who feel the same way...

I don't disagree, but the thousands who feel the same way are, unfortunately, a drop in the bucket compared to the billions who don't.

we aren’t billions here, we are what is left of the pascal programming community. The fact that we are still using pascal by definition makes us outliers. So I feel no need to jump on the surveillance capitalism bandwagon.

[LV]

I'm curious about the size of the global Pascal programming community, at least in relative terms.

[Martin_fr]

I'm curious about the size of the global Pascal programming community, at least in relative terms.

I don't know the answer...
Also, global may not give the full picture. There may be hotspots. Some countries with significantly higher activity, and others with very little.

There are (google it / search the forum) a couple of Website that "measure" the popularity of different programming languages. E.g. by counting how often they are (according to search engines) mentioned on websites.

And then keep in mind that sometimes it is split, sometimes "Delphi" is counted separately. That brings both numbers down.

You can on Sourceforge check the download statistics for FPC and Lazarus (mind that the latter contains fpc downloads, that would not be counted in the former).
To those numbers then add the unknown amount of downloads from mirrors, as well as directly from git, and installations for Linux via the distros' own repositories. (And if you wish, also add the cloned Codetyphon / unknown count).

[LV]

@Martin_fr. Thank you. I will try to search for it.

[Joanna from IRC]

I’m not sure if number of downloads is a good indication of people actually using pascal...

I know that pascal books have disappeared from book stores and pascal programming job offers that rarely mention pascal, it seems an afterthought amongst a list of other programming languages that would be good to have. As for finding anyone in real life willing to use pascal, all I get are deflections and excuses so no interest there.

I don’t think it was ever possible to take an advanced pascal class in school, I’ve heard that they have gotten rid of beginner pascal classes in most schools too.

That is the reality of the situation. It doesn’t have to be this way. As I said before if you want people to join a community you need to make it look fun not inactivity or bickering.

[MarkMLl]

I’m not sure if number of downloads is a good indication of people actually using pascal...

I started to type something in response to that, but I suggest that the topic of this thread is important and discussion should be focused on the problem to hand.

MarkMLl

[Thaddy]

So....
Brexit?   
( I am sorry, but every time I visit Brittain my friends bring up the subject, not me)

[MarkMLl]

So....
Brexit?   

Unrelated, this is UK legislation as stated explicitly by OP.

MarkMLl

[Thaddy]

Unrelated, this is UK legislation as stated explicitly by OP.

????( remember I am a political scientist too, and bored)

[Joanna from IRC]

So what will the people in Uk do about their government threatening online places they go to?
I guess the easiest solution from the standpoint of website owners is to block all uk ip addresses and compell uk residents to use vpn services which will likely become next target... then what? I’m glad I’m not from the uk ..