Interesting article about AI

[Joanna from IRC]

With all the ai hype that has bedazzled some people I just had to share this

https://unixdigest.com/articles/i-passionately-hate-hype-especially-the-ai-hype.html

Also this one is for the every new tool should be used enthusiasts

https://unixdigest.com/articles/we-have-used-too-many-levels-of-abstractions-and-now-the-future-looks-bleak.html

[440bx]

Indeed, very interesting articles.

At the root of those articles is the fact that it takes substantially less effort to pursue instant gratification than it takes to pursue excellence.

[lainz]

I personally use Ai at work.

Yesterday I coded an entire QR for payment with an API with displaying of the QR code into a window with translations to Spanish, English and Portuguese. With integration with the payment system of the app.

All that in 2 hours. Coding it myself can take several days.

The app works and is ready to production. Only a few mistakes of the Ai that I fixed. Again: 2 hours  instead of several days.

[Thaddy]

Did you let AI write unit tests for its AI code?
This actually works and reasonably complete too.
Takes the boredom out of coding unit tests.

[Joanna from IRC]

Indeed, very interesting articles.

At the root of those articles is the fact that it takes substantially less effort to pursue instant gratification than it takes to pursue excellence.

I love the simplicity of the website and his writing style.

Lainz I worry about your job security if your employer discovers that ai will work for free. That continues to the others article about a future where almost nobody knows how things work or can fix them when they malfunction. Coding for several days instead of using ai might not be expedient but it could increase your skill.

[Thaddy]

Lainz I worry about your job security if your employer discovers that ai will work for free. That continues to the others article about a future where

Lainz probably has permission to use AI and is capable to use it. That means he asks very detailed questions. The better the detail in the question, the better the answers are, not only with AI but also in real life. The garbage in, garbage out adagium.
I agree with him: when used properly it is a big time saver, but you have to get used to: properly formulate questions that leave as little room for interpretation as possible.
(that's what you are taught before you wrote your master thesis anyway, at least in my case, some 45 years ago)

What worries me more is that AI as it stands creates another distance between the have and have not's:not everyone has a university education - only less than half of them can formulate proper questions, mind you -and if you do not have one it is easy to interpret an answer to an ill formulated question as true. That is the real risk.

[alpine]

I personally use Ai at work.

Yesterday I coded an entire QR for payment with an API with displaying of the QR code into a window with translations to Spanish, English and Portuguese. With integration with the payment system of the app.

All that in 2 hours. Coding it myself can take several days.

The app works and is ready to production. Only a few mistakes of the Ai that I fixed. Again: 2 hours  instead of several days.

As usual with all AI related statements, the above is enough vague with just one clear: 2 hours vs several days, repeated.
Buzzwords: QR, API, production-ready, multilingual.

QR is a barcode format, means almost nothing here

With integration with the payment system of the app.

Does the app have an API or it is supposed to use an external API?

[Thaddy]

You are completely missing the point I made.
You are guided by sentiments, not facts.

[alpine]

You are completely missing the point I made.
You are guided by sentiments, not facts.

If that is reply to my post - No, I'm not.

I'm just working on a payment system for a past three (again: three) months, POS terminals, QR codes, APIs, etc. How LLM can help you in writing something so specific and most-probably proprietary/secretive as a payments API? What can be achieved in just about 2 hours?  A complete app? Give me a break!

[lainz]

Just upload the documentation of the API, the program reads the documents and creates everything for you.

Of course you need to ask wisely, because else it produces any code that doesn't work. You must be precise.

Edit: to clarify a bit what I did.

This is another kind of payment for the POS app, the app already suppors cash, card, but was needed QR as payment option. The API is third party.

The company pays me the AI and I'm of course allowed to use it.

[Joanna from IRC]

By the easier/faster is always better line of logic shouldn’t we not waste time learning math now that we have calculators?  Maybe we can someday give up reading too because now machines know how to read to us... think of how much time and effort could be saved 

Look what navigation tools have done for getting rid of maps for example. There was once a time when people understood how to navigate using maps and even stars in the sky!! Can you believe that? Now it just seems like a trend towards total dependency on a shrinking number of information providers. I don’t think that this is a good idea at all and will end badly. 

[lainz]

With that point we should be still be cave man. Not improving our techniques.

[lainz]

In order the AI work fine, I must know how to do the program myself, else how I can instruct it to do it?

[Joanna from IRC]

In order the AI work fine, I must know how to do the program myself, else how I can instruct it to do it?

you already know how to program because you started before ai was invented. Programmers in the future will probably not want to bother learning how to program if they can avoid it. I would never want my code created by a machine that lacks creativity and just regurgitates whatever was fed to it. Then again I’m a hobby programmer and can program any way I like..

[lainz]

In order the AI work fine, I must know how to do the program myself, else how I can instruct it to do it?

you already know how to program because you started before ai was invented. Programmers in the future will probably not want to bother learning how to program if they can avoid it. I would never want my code created by a machine that lacks creativity and just regurgitates whatever was fed to it. Then again I’m a hobby programmer and can program any way I like..

That's good. You're not supposed to use AI if you don't want.

But the thing is that I for example don't know too much about assembler language. And I can imagine you too. But we know Pascal. For some programmers that's bad. Because with the same point you do about using powerfull technologies that can also be applied to programming languages. Knowing Pascal is like knowing AI. If you don't know assembler...