Difference in ParamStr(0) between running with Debugger and running without

[carl_caulkett]

@Carl_caulkett
You can approach the fpc team on that. I am doubtful of this having any chance... But I am not part of the FPC team, so ...
It also means that it would only work when using those methods. Any raw access would still disclose that the debugger caused a difference.

I realise that this is a bit of an edge-case so, as you say, the chances of getting this changed are low. In any case, the problem is easily solved, albeit in an after-the-event manner 

[Jonas Maebe]

It's documented that paramstr(0) is unreliable on Darwin/macOS: https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/rtl/system/paramstr.html

This is based on information from an Apple engineer back in the day.

[PascalDragon]

(this is the code revealed by the debugger, which makes sense because macOS is really FreeBSD in disguise )

macOS is not a FreeBSD in disguise. It's an operating system with a user space that takes some code from FreeBSD and NetBSD. And even if the userspace might be BSD-based there are nevertheless quite some subtle differences.

[carl_caulkett]

It's documented that paramstr(0) is unreliable on Darwin/macOS: https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/rtl/system/paramstr.html

This is based on information from an Apple engineer back in the day.

Interesting! At least I can draw some comfort from the fact that this is a known issue, and I note what the web page says about not having the data stored alongside and dependent on the location of the app.

[carl_caulkett]

(this is the code revealed by the debugger, which makes sense because macOS is really FreeBSD in disguise )

macOS is not a FreeBSD in disguise. It's an operating system with a user space that takes some code from FreeBSD and NetBSD. And even if the userspace might be BSD-based there are nevertheless quite some subtle differences.

Are you familiar with the concept of things being said in a "tongue in cheek" manner, often accompanied by a emoji...?

[PascalDragon]

(this is the code revealed by the debugger, which makes sense because macOS is really FreeBSD in disguise )

macOS is not a FreeBSD in disguise. It's an operating system with a user space that takes some code from FreeBSD and NetBSD. And even if the userspace might be BSD-based there are nevertheless quite some subtle differences.

Are you familiar with the concept of things being said in a "tongue in cheek" manner, often accompanied by a emoji...?

Yes, I am, but that doesn't mean that one shouldn't leave such things uncommented. That's how rumors start after all...

[carl_caulkett]

Yes, I am, but that doesn't mean that one shouldn't leave such things uncommented. That's how rumors start after all...

I've amended the original comment. I think we'll be safe now

[PascalDragon]

Yes, I am, but that doesn't mean that one shouldn't leave such things uncommented. That's how rumors start after all...

I've amended the original comment. I think we'll be safe now

Thanks for that 😅