Cross-platform - how to target Linux

[TRon]

The cross-compiling from M1 should work.
Would be good to try to solve the issue !

Indeed it would.

Just to make sure I understood: There is no way that FPCUpdeluxe (on its own/by default) would use (fallback to) a previous compiler revision in order to create a cross-compiler ?

@carl_caulkett:
How/why is FPCUpdeluxe able to find/locate a FPC 3.2.2 (host) compiler in your Lazarus installation directory ? I ask to make sure because you specifically stated to be using Lazarus 3.99 and FPC 3.3.1.

Technically both situations at the same time can't be (shouldn't be) happening.

[carl_caulkett]

@carl_caulkett:
How/why is FPCUpdeluxe able to find/locate a FPC 3.2.2 (host) compiler in your Lazarus installation directory ? I ask to make sure because you specifically stated to be using Lazarus 3.99 and FPC 3.3.1.

Technically both situations at the same time can't be (shouldn't be) happening.

I still have a FPC 3.2.2/Lazarus 3.4 installation alongside my FPC 3.3.1/Lazarus 3.99 one. The old one was installed using the default installers from the website, whereas the 3.3.1/3.99 one was done with fpcupdeluxe. Maybe it's picking up the old 3.2.2 compiler, although I got the impression that fpcupdeluxe was  self-sufficient enough not to need any outside compilers...

[TRon]

Maybe it's picking up the old 3.2.2 compiler, although I got the impression that fpcupdeluxe was  self-sufficient enough not to need any outside compilers...

FPCUpdeluxe can do without but remember what I told about system wide installations ? In the end it is going to bite the proverbial buttocks 

The scripts and other mechanisms that are in place are suppose to do things by the book but that doesn't always turn out that way (bug, oversight and/or other catastrophic things that might happen). F.e. one of the most common things that does happen is for whatever makefile or program/buildtool to pick up on a system wide fpc.cfg file and which might toss things around in unexpected ways.

It would be interesting to understand/know why this situation happens for you.

Edit: Drats, this VM thing back 'n forth got me confused. It is the cross-compiler used by Lazarus that is reported to be 3.2.2 so it is more likely related to your Lazarus settings, not FPCUpDeluxe.

Can you share your Lazarus configuration for the cross-compilation in detail ?

[carl_caulkett]

Can you share your Lazarus configuration for the cross-compilation in detail ?

Sorry it's late here! Where do I find that information?

[TRon]

@carl:
Please paste text from following text controls:
- menu project, project options / compiler options / config and target, button show options
- menu view, IDE internals / About FPC, both tabs please
- optionally:  menu view / IDE internals / About IDE , first tab only

edit: I forgot to mention: do this when you have your project opened and targeted for cross-compiling to arm windows (dunno if you have to save the options first so let's make sure and do).

[carl_caulkett]

FPCUpdeluxe can do without but remember what I told about system wide installations ? In the end it is going to bite the proverbial buttocks 

I'm pretty sure that my current FPC/Lazarus setup is not using the FPC 3.2.2 compiler at all. To confirm this I renamed my old Lazarus 3.4 installation from its old name of /Applications/Lazarus to /Applications/LazarusXXX. I then did a which fpc to find out where the old system-wide fpc was installed. It was /usr/local/bin/fpc. So I renamed this fpcXXX, and to double check tried running fpc. It came back with zsh: command not found: fpc.

In the meantime, all 4 modes of my Lazarus 3.99 installation, macOS, Linux and Windows all build with any problem, proving, I would say, that my old FPC 3.2.2 installation is not a factor here!

Oh, and I took on board what you said about not having the default settings for my Mac option. I've explicitly created a Darwin/aarch64 cross-compiler in fpcupdeluxe, and created a Project Option called macOS aarch64, as well as a Darwin/x86_64 cross-compiler and a Project Option called macOS x86_64, each with the appropriate OS and CPU selected. All four project options build successfully, without even touching the old system-wide fpc!

This means I can choose between Mac Silicon, Mac Intel, Linux and Windows, all using fpcupdeluxe generated cross-compilers

[carl_caulkett]

@carl:
Please paste text from following text controls:
- menu project, project options / compiler options / config and target, button show options

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1. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh
2. -Twin64
3. -Px86_64
4. -MObjFPC
5. -Scghi
6. -O1
7. -gw2
8. -godwarfsets
9. -gl
10. -gh
11. -Xg
12. -l
13. -vewnhibq
14. -Filib/x86_64-win64
15. -Fu/Users/carlcaulkett/Code/FPC/OsmosePresets/
16. -Fu../caMidi
17. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/virtualtreeview/lib/x86_64-win64-win32
18. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/ideintf/units/x86_64-win64/win32
19. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/lclextensions/lib/x86_64-win64-win32
20. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/lazcontrols/lib/x86_64-win64/win32
21. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/lcl/units/x86_64-win64/win32
22. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/lcl/units/x86_64-win64
23. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/freetype/lib/x86_64-win64
24. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/debuggerintf/lib/x86_64-win64
25. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/buildintf/units/x86_64-win64
26. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-win64
27. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/lazdebuggers/lazdebuggerintf/lib/x86_64-win64
28. -Fu../caLibrary/lib/x86_64-win64
29. -Fu/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/packager/units/x86_64-win64
30. -FUlib/x86_64-win64
31. -FE.
32. -oOsmosePresets.exe
33. -dLCL
34. -dLCLwin32
35. -vd
36. -gh
37. -glh
38. -Xg
39. OsmosePresets.lpr
40.  

- menu view, IDE internals / About FPC, both tabs please

FPC Values used by the IDE

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1. Lazarus version: 3.99
2. Lazarus revision: main_3_99-2797-gb854ec9036
3. Lazarus build date: 2024/10/13 15:04:48
4. Lazarus was compiled for x86_64-darwin
5. Lazarus was compiled with FPC 3.3.1
6.  
7. Environment variables:
8. PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
9. PP=
10. FPCDIR=
11. USESVN2REVISIONINC=
12. USER=carlcaulkett
13. HOME=/Users/carlcaulkett
14. PWD=
15. LANG=
16. LANGUAGE=
17.  
18. Global IDE options:
19. LazarusDirectory=../lazarus/
20. Resolved LazarusDirectory=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/
21. Project's CompilerFilename=$(CompPath)
22. Resolved Project's CompilerFilename=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh
23. Default CompilerFilename=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh
24. Resolved default compilerFilename=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh
25. CompilerMessagesFilename=
26. Resolved CompilerMessagesFilename=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpcsrc/compiler/msg/errore.msg
27.  
28. Project:
29. lpi=/Users/carlcaulkett/Code/FPC/OsmosePresets/osmosepresets.lpi
30. Directory=/Users/carlcaulkett/Code/FPC/OsmosePresets/
31. TargetOS=win64
32. TargetCPU=x86_64
33. CompilerFilename=$(CompPath)
34. CompilerOptions=
35.  
36. Active target:
37. TargetOS=win64
38. TargetCPU=x86_64
39. Subtarget=
40.  
41. FPC executable:
42. Compiler=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh
43. Options=
44. CompilerDate=09/30/24 08:23:12 PM
45. RealCompiler=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/ppcx64
46. RealCompilerDate=09/30/24 08:23:12 PM
47. RealTargetOS=win64
48. RealTargetCPU=x86_64
49. RealCompilerInPath=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/ppcx64
50. Version=3.3.1-16559-gaefca4c22b
51. CfgFilename=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.cfg
52.  
53. Defines:
54. CONSOLE=
55. CPU64=
56. CPUAMD64=
57. CPUINT64=
58. CPUX64=
59. CPUX86-64-V1=
60. CPUX86_64=
61. CPUX86_HAS_BSWAP=
62. CPUX86_HAS_BTX=
63. CPUX86_HAS_CMOV=
64. CPUX86_HAS_SSE2=
65. CPUX86_HAS_SSEUNIT=
66. ENDIAN_LITTLE=
67. FPC=
68. FPC_ABI_DEFAULT=
69. FPC_ALIGNED_THREADVARTABLES=
70. FPC_COMP_IS_INT64=
71. FPC_CROSSCOMPILING=
72. FPC_CURRENCY_IS_INT64=
73. FPC_DYNARRAYCOPY_FIXED=
74. FPC_FULLVERSION=30301
75. FPC_HAS_ANSICHAR_CHAR=
76. --8<--
77. FPC_VARIANTCOPY_FIXED=
78. FPC_VERSION=3
79. FPC_WINLIKEWIDESTRING=
80. FPUSSE64=
81. INTERNAL_BACKTRACE=
82. MSWINDOWS=
83. NEEDCROSSBINUTILS=
84. REGCALL=
85. STR_CONCAT_PROCS=
86. VER3=
87. VER3_3=
88. VER3_3_1=
89. WIN64=
90. WINDOWS=
91.  
92. Undefines:
93. BSD=
94. DARWIN=
95. HASUNIX=
96. UNIX=
97.  
98. Include Paths:
99. Unit Scopes:
100. Unit Paths:
101. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/config_lazarus
102. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/httpd22
103. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/rtl
104. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/opengl
105. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/fcl-base
106. --8<--
107. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/gnutls
108. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/pasjpeg
109. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/libffi
110. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/bzip2
111. Units:
112. acceleratorsresource=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/fcl-res/acceleratorsresource.ppu
113. activex=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/winunits-base/activex.ppu
114. adler=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/adler.ppu
115. advancedipc=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/fcl-base/advancedipc.ppu
116. advancedsingleinstance=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/fcl-base/advancedsingleinstance.ppu
117. --8<--
118. zbase=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/zbase.ppu
119. zcompres=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/zcompres.ppu
120. zdeflate=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/zdeflate.ppu
121. zinflate=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/zinflate.ppu
122. zip=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/zip.ppu
123. zipper=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/zipper.ppu
124. ziptypes=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/unzip/ziptypes.ppu
125. ziputils=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/ziputils.ppu
126. zlib=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/zlib/zlib.ppu
127. zstream=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/zstream.ppu
128. zuncompr=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/paszlib/zuncompr.ppu
129.  
130. Sources:
131. Directory=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpcsrc
132. Files.Count=21171
133. packages/libndsfpc/src/nds/system.inc
134. packages/libogcfpc/src/ogc/system.inc
135. rtl/aix/system.pp
136. rtl/amicommon/classes.pp
137. rtl/amicommon/sysutils.pp
138. rtl/amiga/system.pp
139. rtl/aros/system.pp
140. --8<--
141. rtl/win64/classes.pp
142. rtl/win64/system.pp
143. rtl/wince/classes.pp
144. rtl/wince/system.pp
145. rtl/wince/sysutils.pp
146. rtl/zxspectrum/system.pp
147.  

FPC output

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1. The IDE asks the compiler with the following command for the real OS/CPU:
2. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh -iTOTP -Fr/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/codetools/fpc.errore.msg
3. Working directory: /
4. Output:
5. darwin x86_64
6.  
7. The IDE asks the compiler with the following command for paths and macros:
8. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh -va -Px86_64 -Twin64 -Fr/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/codetools/fpc.errore.msg compilertest.pas
9. Working directory: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/config_lazarus/
10. Output:
11. [0.000] Handling option "-Twin64"
12. [0.000] Interpreting firstpass option "-Twin64"
13. [0.000] Macro undefined: DARWIN
14. [0.000] Macro undefined: UNIX
15. [0.000] Macro undefined: BSD
16. [0.000] Macro undefined: HASUNIX
17. [0.000] Macro undefined: FPC_HAS_WINLIKERESOURCES
18. [0.000] Macro defined: WIN64
19. [0.000] Macro defined: MSWINDOWS
20. [0.000] Macro defined: WINDOWS
21. --8<--
22. [0.001] Macro defined: FPC_HAS_INTERNAL_SAR
23. [0.001] Macro defined: INTERNAL_BACKTRACE
24. [0.001] Macro defined: STR_CONCAT_PROCS
25. [0.001] Macro defined: REGCALL
26. [0.001] Macro defined: ENDIAN_LITTLE
27. [0.001] Macro defined: FPC_LITTLE_ENDIAN
28. [0.001] Handling option "-n"
29. [0.001] Interpreting option "-n"
30. [0.001] Reading further options from /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.cfg
31. [0.001] Reading options from file /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.cfg
32. [0.001] Hint: Start of reading config file /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.cfg
33. [0.001] Interpreting file option "#"
34. [0.001] Interpreting file option "# Config file generated by fpcmkcfg on 30-9-24 - 13:44:42"
35. [0.001] Interpreting file option "# Example fpc.cfg for Free Pascal Compiler"
36. --8<--
37. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# Display Info, Warnings and Notes"
38. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#-viwn"
39. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# If you don't want so much verbosity use"
40. [0.005] Handling option "-vw"
41. [0.005] Interpreting option "-vw"
42. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# begin fpcup do not remove : base settings"
43. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# Adding binary tools paths to"
44. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# plain bin dir and architecture bin dir so"
45. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# fpc 3.1+ fpcres etc can be found."
46. [0.005] Handling option "-FD/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin;/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc"
47. [0.005] Interpreting option "-FD/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin;/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc"
48. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# library search path"
49. [0.005] Handling option "-Fl/usr/lib/x86_64-win64;/usr/lib/x86_64-win64-gnu;/lib/x86_64-win64;/lib/x86_64-win64-gnu"
50. [0.005] Interpreting option "-Fl/usr/lib/x86_64-win64;/usr/lib/x86_64-win64-gnu;/lib/x86_64-win64;/lib/x86_64-win64-gnu"
51. [0.005] Path "/lib/x86_64-win64-gnu/" not found
52. [0.005] Path "/lib/x86_64-win64/" not found
53. [0.005] Path "/usr/lib/x86_64-win64-gnu/" not found
54. [0.005] Path "/usr/lib/x86_64-win64/" not found
55. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#IFNDEF FPC_CROSSCOMPILING"
56. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#ENDIF"
57. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# Add some extra OSX options, if any"
58. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#IFDEF DARWIN"
59. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# Prevents crti not found linking errors"
60. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#IFNDEF FPC_CROSSCOMPILING"
61. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#ENDIF"
62. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#ENDIF"
63. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# MacOS 10.14 Mojave and newer have libs and tools in new, yet non-standard directory"
64. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#IFDEF DARWIN"
65. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#ENDIF"
66. [0.005] Handling option "-Fl/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/lib"
67. [0.005] Interpreting option "-Fl/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/lib"
68. [0.005] Handling option "-FD/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin"
69. [0.005] Interpreting option "-FD/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin"
70. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# end fpcup do not remove"
71. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# begin fpcup do not remove x86_64-win64"
72. --8<--
73. [0.005] Interpreting file option "#ENDIF FPC_CROSSCOMPILING"
74. [0.005] Interpreting file option "# end fpcup do not remove"
75. [0.005] Hint: End of reading config file /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.cfg
76. [0.005] Handling option "-va"
77. [0.005] Interpreting option "-va"
78. [0.005] Handling option "-Twin64"
79. [0.005] Interpreting option "-Twin64"
80. [0.005] Handling option "-Fr/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/codetools/fpc.errore.msg"
81. [0.005] Interpreting option "-Fr/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/components/codetools/fpc.errore.msg"
82. [0.007] Handling option "compilertest.pas"
83. [0.007] Found source file name "compilertest.pas"
84. [0.007] Free Pascal Compiler version 3.3.1-16559-gaefca4c22b [2024/09/30] for x86_64
85. [0.007] Copyright (c) 1993-2024 by Florian Klaempfl and others
86. [0.008] Macro undefined: CPUX86-64-V1
87. [0.008] Macro defined: CPUX86-64-V1
88. [0.008] Macro undefined: FPUSSE64
89. [0.008] Macro defined: FPUSSE64
90. [0.008] Macro undefined: FPC_ABI_DEFAULT
91. [0.008] Macro defined: FPC_ABI_DEFAULT
92. [0.008] Macro defined: CPUX86_64
93. [0.008] Macro defined: CPUAMD64
94. [0.008] Macro defined: CPU64
95. [0.008] Macro defined: CPUX64
96. [0.008] Macro defined: FPC_CURRENCY_IS_INT64
97. [0.008] Macro defined: FPC_COMP_IS_INT64
98. [0.008] Macro defined: CPUINT64
99. --8<--
100. [0.008] Macro defined: FPC_HAS_INTERNAL_BSR
101. [0.008] Macro defined: FPC_LINK_STATIC
102. [0.008] Macro FPC_VERSION set to 3
103. [0.008] Macro FPC_RELEASE set to 3
104. [0.008] Macro FPC_PATCH set to 1
105. [0.008] Macro FPC_FULLVERSION set to 30301
106. [0.008] Macro defined: FPC_HAS_INDIRECT_ENTRY_INFORMATION
107. [0.008] Macro defined: FPC_HAS_INDIRECT_VAR_ACCESS
108. [0.008] Macro FPC_STACKALIGNMENT set to 16
109. [0.010] Compiler: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/ppcx64
110. [0.010] Compiler OS: Darwin for x86_64
111. [0.010] Target OS: Win64 for x64
112. [0.010] Using executable path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/
113. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/httpd22/
114. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/rtl/
115. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/opengl/
116. --8<--
117. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/gtk1/
118. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/fcl-mustache/
119. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/fcl-db/
120. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/rtl-objpas/
121. --8<--
122. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/fcl-web/
123. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/libgd/
124. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/
125. [0.010] Using unit path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/
126. [0.010] Using library path: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/lib/
127. [0.010] Using library path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/httpd22/
128. --8<--
129. [0.010] Using library path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/rtl/
130. [0.010] Using library path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/opengl/
131. [0.010] Using library path: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/fcl-base/
132. [0.011] Compiling compilertest.pas
133. [0.011] Searching file compilertest.pas... found
134. [0.012] (PROGRAM)  Registering new unit SYSTEM
135. [0.012] (PROGRAM)  Load from PROGRAM (implementation) unit SYSTEM
136. [0.012] (SYSTEM)   Loading unit SYSTEM
137. [0.012] Unitsearch: system.ppu
138. [0.012] Searching file system.ppu... not found
139. [0.012] Searching file SYSTEM.PPU... not found
140. [0.012] Unitsearch: system.pp
141. [0.012] Searching file system.pp... not found
142. [0.012] Searching file SYSTEM.PP... not found
143. [0.012] Unitsearch: system.pas
144. [0.012] Searching file system.pas... not found
145. [0.012] Searching file SYSTEM.PAS... not found
146. --8<--
147. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Name: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/x86_64-win64/rtl/system.ppu
148. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Time: 2024/10/14 10:28:29
149. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Flags: 4224
150. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Crc: 43FC9CD2
151. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Crc: 700FF837 (intfc)
152. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Crc: 3CE99B3E (indc)
153. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   Number of definitions: 3895
154. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   Number of symbols: 10694
155. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Source: system.pp not available
156. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Source: systemh.inc not available
157. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Source: genmathh.inc not available
158. --8<--
159. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Source: sysosh.inc not available
160. [0.013] (SYSTEM)   PPU Source: rtldefs.inc not available
161. [0.014] (SYSTEM)   PPU Source: cpuwin.inc not available
162. [0.014] (SYSTEM)   PPU Source: syswin.inc not available
163. [0.014] (SYSTEM)   PPU Source: seh64.inc not available
164. [0.027] (SYSTEM)   Finished loading unit SYSTEM
165. [0.027] Searching file compilertest.pas... found
166. [0.027] Searching file compilertest.pas... found
167. [0.027] Searching file compilertest.pas... found
168. [0.027] Macro defined: FPC_HAS_FEATURE_HEAP
169. --8<--
170. [0.028] Searching file compilertest.pas... found
171. [0.028] Searching file compilertest.pas... found
172. [0.028] (PROGRAM)  Parsing implementation of compilertest.pas
173. [0.028] Fatal: Syntax error, "BEGIN" expected but "end of file" found
174. [0.031] Fatal: Compilation aborted
175. Error: /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/ppcx64 returned an error exitcode
176.  
177. NOTE: The compilertest.pas is empty, so compilation fails. This is what we want.
178.  

- optionally:  menu view / IDE internals / About IDE , first tab only

General

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1. Lazarus version: 3.99
2. Lazarus revision: main_3_99-2797-gb854ec9036
3. Lazarus build date: 2024/10/13 15:04:48
4. Lazarus was compiled for x86_64-darwin
5. Lazarus was compiled with FPC 3.3.1
6.  
7. Global IDE options:
8. Primary config directory=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/config_lazarus
9. Secondary config directory=/etc/lazarus
10. LazarusDirectory=../lazarus/
11. Real LazarusDirectory=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/
12. Default CompilerFilename=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh
13. Real Default CompilerFilename=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh
14. Project CompilerFilename=$(CompPath)
15. Real Project CompilerFilename=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh
16. CompilerMessagesFilename=
17. Real CompilerMessagesFilename=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpcsrc/compiler/msg/errore.msg
18. FPC source directory=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpcsrc
19. Real FPC source directory=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpcsrc/
20. Test directory=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/projects/
21. Real Test directory=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/projects/
22.  
23. Working directory=/
24. Application.ExeName=/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/lazarus
25. 2024/10/13 15:04:51
26.  
27. Parameters:
28. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/lazarus
29.  
30. System preferred language:
31. Language ID: 'en_GB'
32. Language code: 'en'
33. Country code: 'GB'
34.  
35. Environment variables:
36. COMMAND_MODE=unix2003
37. HOME=/Users/carlcaulkett
38. LaunchInstanceID=E2FA81FF-1F60-48EB-8556-C055B179E76C
39. LOGNAME=carlcaulkett
40. PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
41. SECURITYSESSIONID=186a2
42. SHELL=/bin/zsh
43. SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.MwoKbPSndO/Listeners
44. TMPDIR=/var/folders/r7/br4d58nj5wq4x1xbvl7cpqsr0000gn/T/
45. USER=carlcaulkett
46. USER=carlcaulkett
47. XPC_SERVICE_NAME=application.lazarus.freepascal.ide.608745903.612079332
48. __CFBundleIdentifier=lazarus.freepascal.ide
49. __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING=0x1F5:0:2
50.  

edit: I forgot to mention: do this when you have your project opened and targeted for cross-compiling to arm windows (dunno if you have to save the options first so let's make sure and do).

This exercise has highlighted the fact that my default Lazarus IDE has been built using the x86_64 compiler. I'll have to look at reconfiguring the "Configure Build Lazarus" settings...

The original message was 47K characters, so I had to snip --8<-- some, hopefully. unimportant bits out to trim it down below 20,000 characters 

[TRon]

Thank you for sharing your configs.

At first glance that seems to be ok (apart from a few minor details)

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[0.005] Path "/lib/x86_64-win64-gnu/" not found
[0.005] Path "/lib/x86_64-win64/" not found
[0.005] Path "/usr/lib/x86_64-win64-gnu/" not found
[0.005] Path "/usr/lib/x86_64-win64/" not found


This exercise has highlighted the fact that my default Lazarus IDE has been built using the x86_64 compiler. I'll have to look at reconfiguring the "Configure Build Lazarus" settings...

Indeed. Though Rosetta seems to be doing fine 

The original message was 47K characters, so I had to snip --8<-- some, hopefully. unimportant bits out to trim it down below 20,000 characters 

Ah yes thank you for the reminder as I keep forgetting that. Only the first parts are of interest though (unless seeking for other specific errors).

But... wasn't the actual issue

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Verbose: PPU Loading /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/units/aarch64-linux/rtl/system.ppu
Verbose: PPU Invalid Version 208


?

Which is not similar to x86_64 win64 target as your configurations show to be using as target.

Unless this ...

This means I can choose between Mac Silicon, Mac Intel, Linux and Windows, all using fpcupdeluxe generated cross-compilers

.. means that you got everything sorted out ?

[Thaddy]

3.3.1 needs 3.2.2 to build. So fpcupdeluxe installs both, because you will need 3.2.2 as a bootstrap compiler for 3.3.1. That is never a full install, though: it is kept to the minimum buitd tools. (almost always the case, not just fpcupdeluxe)
If the paths show otherwise, you did something manually very wrong.
For iinstalling without fpcupdeluxe there is Marcov's tried, tested and trusted build-faq to get you started.

[carl_caulkett]

This exercise has highlighted the fact that my default Lazarus IDE has been built using the x86_64 compiler. I'll have to look at reconfiguring the "Configure Build Lazarus" settings...

Indeed. Though Rosetta seems to be doing fine 

Strangely, when I amended my "Configure Build Lazarus" settings to Darwin/aarch64, the rebuild failed with...

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1. make[2]: *** [lazarus] Error 1
2. make[1]: *** [ide] Error 2
3. Error: make: *** [ide] Error 2
4. Error: Unsupported target architecture -Paarch64, invoke the "fpc" compiler driver instead.
5.  

[carl_caulkett]

This exercise has highlighted the fact that my default Lazarus IDE has been built using the x86_64 compiler. I'll have to look at reconfiguring the "Configure Build Lazarus" settings...

Indeed. Though Rosetta seems to be doing fine 

Strangely, when I amended my "Configure Build Lazarus" settings to Darwin/aarch64, the rebuild failed with...

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1. make[2]: *** [lazarus] Error 1
2. make[1]: *** [ide] Error 2
3. Error: make: *** [ide] Error 2
4. Error: Unsupported target architecture -Paarch64, invoke the "fpc" compiler driver instead.
5.  

I think I've fixed this by running lazbuild from the command line...

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1. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus  ./lazbuild --ws=cocoa --cpu=aarch64 /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus/ide/lazarus.lpi
2. SetPrimaryConfigPath NewValue="/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/config_lazarus"
3. Hint: (lazbuild) Primary config path: "/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/config_lazarus"
4. Hint: (lazarus) [RunTool] "/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh" "-iWTOTP" "-Paarch64"
5. Hint: (lazarus) [RunTool] "/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/fpc/bin/x86_64-darwin/fpc.sh" "-va" "/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/config_lazarus/compilertest.pas" "-Paarch64", WorkDir="/Applications/Lazarus_trunk/config_lazarus/"
6. Hint: [TPCTargetConfigCache.Update] has changed
7. Hint: (lazarus) [TBuildManager.SetBuildTarget] Old=x86_64-darwin--cocoa New=aarch64-darwin--cocoa Changed: OS/CPU=True LCL=False
8. Hint: (lazarus) [TBuildManager.SetBuildTarget] Old=aarch64-darwin--cocoa New=aarch64-darwin--cocoa Changed: OS/CPU=True LCL=False
9.  
10. [Thu Oct 17 2024 11:28am (BST+0100)]  (main) [*]
11. /Applications/Lazarus_trunk/lazarus
12.  

[TRon]

1. you shouldn't have to run lazbuild.
2. please stick to a single target at a time. Solve that, then move on to the next.
(now you seem to have switched to yet another target e.g. from macos x86_64 to native macos arm executables while the initial error is/was cross-compiling from x86-64 macos to win64 aarch64)

I can only do so much at a time, e.g. I am not able to focus on 100 different targets at the same time. Especially since at least arm mac is only recently supported (and afaik still in development). 

edit: to provide a little more background, Rosetta allows you to run both X86_64 and aarch64 executables seamlessly. However mixing these in a compiler environment is very confusing and you should take some guidelines into consideration. Either run a aarch64 setup or a x86_64 setup and don't mix them up.

So that leaves a choice: run either a x86_64 or a aarch64 setup or decide to have 2 different setups (independent of each other). The used host architecture is leading in what to setup and how to set it up.

[carl_caulkett]

1. you shouldn't have to run lazbuild.

Perhaps, though the fact that the IDE option to rebuild Lazarus didn't work, while the CLI lazbuild did work, rather forced my hand!

2. please stick to a single target at a time. Solve that, then move on to the next.
(now you seem to have switched to yet another target e.g. from macos x86_64 to native macos arm executables while the initial error is/was cross-compiling from x86-64 macos to win64 aarch64)

I don't know where you're getting macos arm from. Any deviation from the default x86_64 architecture has been towards aarch64!

edit: to provide a little more background, Rosetta allows you to run both X86_64 and aarch64 executables seamlessly. However mixing these in a compiler environment is very confusing and you should take some guidelines into consideration. Either run a aarch64 setup or a x86_64 setup and don't mix them up.
So that leaves a choice: run either a x86_64 or a aarch64 setup or decide to have 2 different setups (independent of each other). The used host architecture is leading in what to setup and how to set it up.

Isn't that precisely what I am trying to do? My hardware and OS is aarch64. I am trying to bring the Lazarus IDE in line with that...

[TRon]

Perhaps, though the fact that the IDE option to rebuild Lazarus didn't work, while the CLI lazbuild did work, rather forced my hand!

Wrong target. Don't mix as it will leave you with empty hands with regards to the command-line compiler.

I don't know where you're getting macos arm from. Any deviation from the default x86_64 architecture has been towards aarch64!

arm64 = aarch64

Isn't that precisely what I am trying to do? My hardware and OS is aarch64. I am trying to bring the Lazarus IDE in line with that...

No because your host is (natural) arm (aarch64) and the lazarus and compiler you have been referring to are x86_64. In itself that is ok but as I wrote: don't mix but, choose instead.

[carl_caulkett]

Wrong target. Don't mix as it will leave you with empty hands with regards to the command-line compiler.

So what is the correct target?

arm64 = aarch64

The fact that the CPU drop down lists arm and aarch64 as two distinct options doesn't help matter!

No because your host is (natural) arm (aarch64) and the lazarus and compiler you have been referring to are x86_64. In itself that is ok but as I wrote: don't mix but, choose instead.

If you, or anyone, could explain to me, in terms no more complex linguistically than "the cat sat on the mat", exactly how I can do this, that would make life a lot easier!