Josh, I suspect that (from what Martin said) that will still require some work by Martin and maybe we need to question how much effort needs be put in because of this rowdy behavior (of which I am an offender).
Even splitting the topic is considerable work. What if we depended on the forum's good culture and had a rule that if mod suggests "no more on topic x in this thread, go start a new one in 'Other'" - we would do so ?
Mark - I don't think allowing the originator to lock a thread is a good idea, the case in point diverged from the original (thats the problem) and the originator showed only passing interest in it once Marc did his magic.
Mark, no need to apologize for defending Joanna, we all know that she is sincere, indeed, I was quite worried when she said trolls we targeting her specifically. That is, IMHO unacceptable. But why her ? Because she is particularly attuned to potential trolls ?
I am, to be honest, not aware of a troll problem here. I often see spam, because of timing, maybe I see (and report it) more than most. I would have said spam was a bigger problem than Troll but with both your and Joanna's experience, maybe I am wrong.
I guess we all need to remember that threads should stay on topic, we should create a "following on from topic YYZ" if necessary and other people should respect that shift ?
Ah, cross posting with Benny, I support what he says !
David
edit : Benny, do the "sandbox" discussions have a "use by date" ?