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Installing Lazarus 1.8.4 on Ubuntu 18.04
MarkMLl:
--- Quote from: dbannon on September 05, 2019, 02:06:56 am ---Hmm, sorry, careless wording. I should have said "unix" or "*nix". While I started using computers with VMX, I soon progressed to Ultrix, OSF and then True64 on the Dec/Compaq Supercomputers. I used something called Coherent, maybe 1985 or 1986 - that was the first Unix like OS I used running on PC hardware. Maybe we could consider that as one of many fore runners to Linux ?
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Perhaps these days we should describe those as "Linux-like OSes" :-)
I remember Coherent, and was actually referring to its manual until comparatively recently on account of the usefulness of its permuted index.
MarkMLl
winni:
--- Quote from: munair on September 04, 2021, 04:05:54 pm ---
Over 30 years would legitimately bring you to 1990 or earlier. Given the first release of Linux in 1991, it actually is almost that old. This is apart from the fact that the first distributions came out in 1992, which weren't even useful for a production desktop at the time. Point being, 30 years don't really give a mistaken impression about the age of Linux. It does give a mistaken impression about the GNU/Linux operating systems or distro's that could actually be used in production environments. Even SuSE version 6.4 in 1998 was a pain to install because it required manual selection of dependencies against 'unsatisfied' error messages (don't remind me).
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Hi!
You did not need a Linux distro in those days. You could download it all and compile it by yourself. The days when computing was an adventure.
It was boring to install Slackware because it came on 14 (??) floppy disks. Most time you were a diskjockey.
So what a joy when Suse 4.3 appeared in 1996. And so easy to install related to Slackware.
The only trouble was my Diamond graphic card. Until a chinese man send the driver source. Without any words.
Winni
winni:
--- Quote from: dbannon on September 05, 2019, 02:06:56 am ---While I started using computers with VMX, I soon progressed to Ultrix, OSF and then True64 on the Dec/Compaq Supercomputers. I used something called Coherent, maybe 1985 or 1986 - that was the first Unix like OS I used running on PC hardware. Maybe we could consider that as one of many fore runners to Linux ?
Davo
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Hi!
Coherent started to get a little famous in the early 90s with version 4.0. It needed an Intel 386 and was a realy multiuser system (3 users).
But parallel was the development of Linux.
Coherent lost the race because
* In Germany the wanted 100,- Marks - Linux was free
* They had no TCP/IP
* The had no X11 system
* Related to Linux their development was slow
Some years later Coherent was bankrupt.
I those days every major company wanted to have their own Unix:
AIX (IBM) , Xenix (Microsoft), Sinix (Siemens), HP-UX (HP), .....
Winni
munair:
--- Quote from: winni on September 04, 2021, 06:18:03 pm ---I those days every major company wanted to have their own Unix:
AIX (IBM) , Xenix (Microsoft), Sinix (Siemens), HP-UX (HP), .....
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IBM already set their cards on the development of OS/2 Warp which to my knowledge became the first true 32bit multitasking OS. But they weren't that good at marketing so Windows 95 became the hit while still 16bit DOS at the heart. No matter, any distro with a linux kernel at the time was still light years behind and only gained real traction in the early 2000s when Gnome and KDE became more mature desktops.
winni:
Hi!
You should have enough knowledge to not mix up things:
The first real 32 bit systems where Unix, VMS and Linux. Noboday needed a desktop in those days but anyway X11 was developed.
You could run BSD 4.2 on low cost midrange machines with a Motorola 680x0.
Example: Stride 400 series with 16 or 32 ASCII-Teminals. The most exspensive part was the BSD license.
And on the other hand: There were cheap machines beside the Apples with a graphic Desktop:
Atari ST and Amiga. 5 years before Windows 3.1 and even more before OS/2 (OS half). The Atari survied a long time in the music buisiness because of the Midi ability. Last time I saw a lot of them: 2005. In a 19" rack on stage.
And a lot of Amigas were busy at that time in a local TV station because of the video abilities.
KDE and Gnome are these morbid tries to become a better desktop than Windows. And when a version seems to run then the next generation starts produce the newest version, which is full of faults.
There are enough slim desktops and if you have understood Linux you use the half time a console. And the other time a browser.
Winni
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