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MsPaint coming to end of the road
« on: July 25, 2017, 08:50:42 am »
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/24/microsoft-paint-kill-off-after-32-years-graphics-editing-program?CMP=twt_gu

Looks like we're going to need a replacement software for simple cropping, pixel perfect editing and format changing, because Microsoft doesn't seem to have a clue on what users want. I know for a fact Gimp is not suitable for those simple tasks (i mean it can but not as simply as with Paint), it however has other features that make it irreplaceable. I haven't tried things like Paint.net or stuff i've heard before, are they up to the task? Quick and efficient?
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2017, 09:05:55 am »
how about http://wiki.freepascal.org/LazPaint?
I think it can be converted to portable easily.
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2017, 09:28:54 am »
Seems like they changed their mind https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/07/24/ms-paint-stay/#yb1guwQUEu3iKIl3.97

Anyway, i think something like alpha-channel support for PNG's would be welcome addition. Also the latest changes in Paint for Win7 and 10 went backwards, that the mouse sticks to line drawing... and in general the mouse isn't always accurately aligned with pixels  ::)

LazPaint seems like aiming to compete with Gimp, instead of being a simple editor.
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2017, 09:53:42 am »
Seems like they changed their mind https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/07/24/ms-paint-stay/#yb1guwQUEu3iKIl3.97
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Anyway, i think something like alpha-channel support for PNG's would be welcome addition. Also the latest changes in Paint for Win7 and 10 went backwards, that the mouse sticks to line drawing... and in general the mouse isn't always accurately aligned with pixels  ::)

LazPaint seems like aiming to compete with Gimp, instead of being a simple editor.
I do not know what lazpaint aims for, it sure is not gimp though.
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2017, 11:37:16 am »
Indeed LazPaint is far from Gimp. Competing with Gimp has not been the aim as it was a more modest development. However I do not know the future, it depends if we can get together to improve it. Also people do not always have much spare time.
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2017, 11:49:30 am »
Indeed LazPaint is far from Gimp. Competing with Gimp has not been the aim as it was a more modest development. However I do not know the future, it depends if we can get together to improve it. Also people do not always have much spare time.

But lazpaint is still superior to paint! It just need a proper plugin interface, which paint didn't have anyway.
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2017, 11:51:44 am »
LazPaint is as simple as MS Paint, just more advanced. It's like in between MS Paint and GIMP. I actually endup using KolourPaint more often :-[ (sorry circular) but I keep my LazPaint up to date and check its updates from time to time.

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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2017, 12:00:18 pm »
LazPaint is as simple as MS Paint, just more advanced. It's like in between MS Paint and GIMP. I actually endup using KolourPaint more often :-[ (sorry circular) but I keep my LazPaint up to date and check its updates from time to time.
Yup. That's what I said. But it can easily be expanded to paint.net or something... We can do that.
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2017, 09:58:26 pm »
A plugin system indeed could help.
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2017, 09:59:54 pm »
A plugin system indeed could help.
and a pair of scrollbars couldn't hurt either :P
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2017, 08:29:35 pm »
Take a screenshot and crop it with paint, is faster than any other software.

And I read that they will put it in the Store, so it will be another outdated download.

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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2017, 01:08:30 am »
Take a screenshot and crop it with paint, is faster than any other software.
Actually this can be even faster with lazpaint screengrab open lazpaint press ctrl+alt+v, select the region to crop (select\select rectangle) and press image\crop to selection. Its even faster because the selection has a life as an object on the image it does not resize the selection after you release the mouse.
And I read that they will put it in the Store, so it will be another outdated download.
Yeah not going to bother creating an account let alone download it.
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2017, 02:28:37 am »
Of course. It's a matter of habit. I'm used to search for paint first than opening real graphic design tools. Like notepad++ to open quickly any text file, even if I can not do too much with it.

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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2017, 02:36:08 am »
Of course. It's a matter of habit. I'm used to search for paint first than opening real graphic design tools. Like notepad++ to open quickly any text file, even if I can not do too much with it.
I'm using mspaint exclusively for fast little crops and resizes but only because its easier to start it up ee win+r mspaint and you are in. No need to look around for an icon to click or a mouse. I fully agree that habbit is the stronger reason of still using mspaint that and the fact that I dislike GTK+ application.
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Re: MsPaint coming to end of the road
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2017, 08:42:52 am »
Do we really need MSPaint ???  :)
I found in approx. 5 minutes a lot of alternatives... sometimes it's hard to get the OS requirements though, don't know if this is all correct.

Unfortunately I cannot test these versions in 5 minutes...  :'(
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