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Delphi5_but

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Is Lazarus still being developed?
« on: October 04, 2016, 04:34:26 pm »
I am keen to change over but 1.6 was not there yet (bugs and weirdness) so had to go back to Delphi.

Thought I'd check and see that it is at 1.6 since Jan this year.

Has development stalled or are they just waiting on FPC latest release?

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2016, 04:36:28 pm »
1.6 is far the best release I ever used of Lazarus.

This question is real? You can download the trunk of FPC and Lazarus and get the things they develop every single day.

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2016, 04:56:36 pm »
I am keen to change over but 1.6 was not there yet (bugs and weirdness) so had to go back to Delphi.

Thought I'd check and see that it is at 1.6 since Jan this year.

Has development stalled or are they just waiting on FPC latest release?

Maybe contrary to Delphi it is actively developed with daily updates in trunk and a solid release version.
I wonder if you could show us some of your problems?
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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2016, 05:14:08 pm »
I wonder if you could show us some of your problems?

Sorry, should have explained better. The last time I tried Lazarus was early this year. Not sure exactly but gave it a good week of trials before reverting to Delphi.

I can't remember exactly but there was some weirdness with adding Components and their source folders not being found. I do not want to install 1.6 again just to find the problems I had back then if there is another version due soon. :)

@lainz: Where do I find the "trunk" whatever that may be?

Thanks
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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2016, 05:31:44 pm »
There was some weirdness with adding Components and their source folders not being found. I do not want to install 1.6 again just to find the problems I had back then if there is another version due soon.
There are some fundamental differences in usage of the "library path". They won't change in the next version, I am sure. Therefore you could try to understand this right away with Laz 1.6, with the next version you will have the same problems. If you want help with this path issue please specify exactly what you are doing, which components, provide a demo project etc - you will really get good help here, but you must help us understand the problem instead of asking for the next version.

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2016, 06:04:40 pm »
You might want to read:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_Development_Process
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Version_Numbering

Lazarus is developed and released independently from FPC. Usually the reference is latest FPC release. Both are developed not just daily, but minutely or even secondly. Just watch the svn log.

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2016, 06:21:39 pm »
You might consider the fixes branch (svn) over trunk. It may be more stable.

But of course only if
1) the issue you saw in fixed (in trunk)
2) merged to fixes

A list of all fixes that were merged is on http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_1.6_fixes_branch

Btw, if you find an issue:
1) ask here, if it is not a config issue
2) report a bug please

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2016, 08:28:23 pm »
Thanks, I checked the SVN link above and it shows the latest on Sourceforge at 2016-04-18 or am I reading that wrong?

@wp: As mentioned I am not about to install **again** just to find the problems. I am **not asking** for help with anything. I  periodically try Lazarus and it has been improved greatly over the years, but as mentioned, not there yet. :)

I asked the original question related to FPC as when I did a search on Lazarus updates I got a page telling me the developers  were waiting on FPC-3.0 release. I don't care what they may be waiting on, I just asked if it was stalled.

Since it is most definitely NOT stalled then I will wait for the next release. I was just surprised to see that some 10-months from my last testing, it was still at v1.6.

Can we all please just stick to the original question at hand? 

And, the answer to that is "yes."

Bye for now.

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2016, 09:24:19 pm »
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As mentioned I am not about to install **again** just to find the problems.

Generally spoken: Normally the problem is sitting in front of the computer on a chair...  :P
And a new stable version won't change that...

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2016, 09:29:35 pm »
Thanks, I checked the SVN link above and it shows the latest on Sourceforge at 2016-04-18 or am I reading that wrong?

@wp: As mentioned I am not about to install **again** just to find the problems. I am **not asking** for help with anything. I  periodically try Lazarus and it has been improved greatly over the years, but as mentioned, not there yet. :)

I installed D5, and tried to compile some of my code. It failed. Obviously delphi is not quite there yet.

P.s. afaik lazarus 1.6 uses FPC3

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2016, 10:33:15 pm »
Thanks, I checked the SVN link above and it shows the latest on Sourceforge at 2016-04-18 or am I reading that wrong?
Seems either sourceforge or you read it incorrectly. Latest commit for fixes 1.6 branch is:
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$ svn log -l 1 http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/branches/fixes_1_6
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r53050 | maxim | 2016-09-29 05:09:11 +0700 (Kam, 29 Sep 2016) | 4 lines

Merged revision(s) 53047 from trunk:
IDE: When reading lazarus.cfg file, change from Windows codepage to UTF8 when needed (the file is written by the Windows installer). Fixes Issue #0029494.
while for trunk it is:
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$ svn log -l 1 http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk
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r53068 | wp | 2016-10-04 19:59:53 +0700 (Sel, 04 Okt 2016) | 1 line

examples: Add example for merging cells in TStringGrid

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2016, 10:42:31 pm »
I installed D5, and tried to compile some of my code. It failed. Obviously delphi is not quite there yet.
Haha, I have the same experience with Delphi 10.1 Berlin :)

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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2016, 10:57:03 pm »
The best about Lazarus is that we know it will never be sold.. and sold... and sold again... and again...
 :D
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Re: Is Lazarus still being developed?
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2016, 11:16:02 pm »
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so had to go back to Delphi.

If you had asked for help then, you would now have been working with Lazarus for almost a year.
I'm sure that your problem would have been solved very quickly by answers from this community if only you would have asked.
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