New FPC IDE

[valdir.marcos]

As promised I have begun to adapt QTX, the second generation Smart Pascal IDE, to be usable with freepascal. This means that Lazarus will get company sometime in the future.

Thinking about individual programmers, startups and small companies: Lazarus, Orwell Dev-C++, Netbeans, Eclipse, and some more IDEs are mature, excellent, open source and free. How much money will cost all the facilities your paid IDE is promising?

I do not have anything against you selling your solution, but I do not believe that your IDE and Lazarus will ever compete for the same audience.

Many developers, such as me, do not believe in magic pills. See:
http://www.sitepoint.com/using-phonegap-for-hybrid-app-development/
http://community.phonegap.com/nitobi/problems/common

I do not believe in a silver bullet that would ever kill all kind of problems. I believe that a problem may have different solutions and a specialized solution is usually (not always) better that a generic one.
Just an example, I feel more comfortable developing console programs for Asterisk using C++,  for desktop (stand alone, client/server and multi-tier) with Delphi/Lazarus and for Internet with PHP, HTML5, CSS3, jQuery and Bootstrap. In some cases I use (and hack) Drupal or Magento for websites.  In all cases I could use other languages or other CMSes. But  particularly, I do not use Phonegap (or similiar solutions) because I always hear so many people complaining.

Creating the source code in each language I have studied and worked helps me to be a better programmer as time goes by. I know better what is happening and this knowledge helps me to solve the problems that always happen.

BTW, I think this thread belongs to "Third Party", here we soon will experience big opposition. ;-)

I agree.

[sam707]

also right M. Rails ! I totally agree! cheers!

[qdos]

Try talking to a secretary about her workday, spending 8-9 hours in front of a monitor for years, I can promise you that the GUI will count.

To be honest I am not sure exactly WHY you are complaining? No one is forcing you to test or try anything, so what exactly is your problem?

If you mean that a UI with buttons stacked around, no spacing and a small font is OK -- then fine, you go with that. But most people will recognize layout.

And since you "were there" I presume you work for Microsoft?
I am 41 years myself so I was also "there" when the swap occured. My favorite machine back then was the Amiga 1200 PPC, but I had to switch to PC due to work.

If you dont like it, leave it alone. Easy as that.

[sam707]

qdos WE DONT LIVE IN CAVERNS TY

I have 5 fulltime secretaries  they did never care what you say, they care about the applications they use having the right tool instant accessible

[qdos]

Windows 95 was a success because Microsoft held a monopolistic foothold on the PC OS market and had for some time, not because of any technical reason. It did this by requiring OEMs to include Windows if they wanted to ship with DOS. This practice predated Windows 95.

Yes but is that all M$ did? No. They also spent a lot of money for research, marketing - and believe it or not colors (!) We know from medicine that blue has a calming effect on the mind - hence the fantasia clear-blue sky has followed windows since way-back-then.

There was a large article about this in dr.dobb's journal a few years back, when covering HTML and hybrid QT C++ coding. Emphasis was on creating a GUI that is easy on the eyes to avoid strain (font size matters over time) and more.

Details matter, that is all i'm saying -- i did not propose that M$ outsmarted IBM by using the color blue..  (although the irony of taking down big blue, using blue, would be comical).

[sam707]

well I am 50y old, I also worked with Chris Klaus (one of my friends), founder of Internet Security Systems, but I refused,maybe 8 times, to work with/for microshot (got my accent?) hahaha, i dont work for money makers and idiots, i work for talented people and, i hope, with talent

[qdos]

well I am 50y old, I also worked with Chris Klaus (one of my friends), founder of Internet Security Systems, but I refused,maybe 8 times, to work with/for microshot (got my accent) hahaha, i dont work for money makers and idiots, i work for talented people and, i hope, with talent

And again, if you dont like the idea and dont believe in a nice, orderly UI for applications - then just leave this alone.
Surely there must be more important things for you to do?

[sam707]

atm the most important thing to do for me is to laugh when people try to remake the world with big pens on a kitchen floor HAHAHAAHHA TY

[sam707]

I had a look over MSEIDE,

http://wiki.freepascal.org/MSEide_%26_MSEgui

http://www.msegui.org

I worked and I stil do maintnance on Qt with their QML dialect

I tried wxDev-C++

http://wxdsgn.sourceforge.net

also had to, by recent past, use visualstudio gas factory (lool)

BUT all IDE I tried, from the most popular to the less, including Code::blocks, eclipse even windev, the only 2 that are really a step forward (from years) are Delphi and Lazarus.

I don't want to discourage you tho... but I think the task you are trying to acomplish or achieve is 1) etremely difficult 2) won't find a large support

however, I wish you all the possible luck friendly

et bis repetita

[qdos]

sam707: Since I have actually made both an IDE and RTL, and have a product out there selling --- why all the doubt?

I find it more comical listning to a know-it-all who might just find himself perfectly adapted to a reality which no longer exists.

But i dont really care what you mean. I make solutions first and foremost for myself, and you can say whatever you like. There is more than ample room for IDE's and flavours of pascal on the marked.

And considering the number of products i have in circulation.. well, sad to hear you have doubts, but thats probably because you lack the ability to see how it can be done.

Take your trolling and go somewhere else

[Glenn]

sam707: To quote your own language (which in fact doesn't belong here), your comments a BS. Why? - simply because you're missing the big picture in QTX.

QTX is not "yet another IDE for pascal" but a quite interesting project because it takes a grip at the current IDE's an their way of working and irons out some of the current issues in the IDE workflow.

It's a matter of limiting the need for several tools to accomplish the same task thus you can work more efficient without having to maintain a large toolbox.

And yes, Smart Mobile Studio its truly smart.

Just my 2 cents.

[Rails]

Yes but is that all M$ did? No. They also spent a lot of money for research, marketing - and believe it or not colors (!) We know from medicine that blue has a calming effect on the mind - hence the fantasia clear-blue sky has followed windows since way-back-then.

There was a large article about this in dr.dobb's journal a few years back, when covering HTML and hybrid QT C++ coding. Emphasis was on creating a GUI that is easy on the eyes to avoid strain (font size matters over time) and more.

Details matter, that is all i'm saying -- i did not propose that M$ outsmarted IBM by using the color blue..  (although the irony of taking down big blue, using blue, would be comical).

You seem to be missing the point entirely.

Users did not choose Windows 95, or any of the immediate prior versions. They had no choice because of Microsoft's illegal monopolistic practices. The colors didn't matter one bit. If they wanted a clone PC, they got Windows - period.

[sam707]

qdos : why put a post to apeal opinions of the others if you deny the wanted opinions and insult people who put them?

duno worry about my "know it all" position I did not wait after you to find my meal on earth (given who I am friend with should give you a clue)

[sam707]

@Rails : you are right from A to Z Sir! thanks for your lightening

[sam707]

@Glenn if you kno read I used 'BS' upon microshot thangs (especially childish designs) your  own misinterpretation does not belong to me Thanks