We should be smart ... ban spam

[timppl]

Hi all
My feeling is that aminer is not particularly out of line. That said, I do not generally read his posts/threads in any level of detail, just enough to see that the software he talks about is of no interest to me, so I ignore the rest of it. Also the number of his posts seems to me to be low compared with the total number of posts in the fora , low enough to be considered as 'noise' if you don't like them.

I certainly have never thought of aminers posts as spam.

As regard allegations of copyright / licencing violations, I am not in a position to comment on this.

Regards

Tim

[kamischi]

Even without a detailed analysis of aminer's post I share the impression that his posts are excessive. However, whether this should be sanctioned by a ban or not is questionable. I think it is much more critical that he seems immune against moderators actions, although his latest posts in this thread give some hope for improvements.

Regarding language barriers: Aminer, let me tell you that you english, i.e. wording or grammar, is not the problem. It is the content and the number of post, which upsets the people. It would be the same in any other language. The actual barrier is that the messages/statements of the moderators do not seem to reach you.

Regarding the poll: It is simply not acceptable, because the second part question (Quote: "and return the forum to real users") is highly presumptuous and suggestive.

Resume: One final chance for aminer to act more appropriately, but if he continues to act as before i think a time limited ban is justified.

MiSchi

[hinst]

Spamming on forum is bad.
The fact that some people are willing to develop libraries for Pascal and share them with others is good... I suggest that people who develop libraries for FPC post descriptions on this page: http://freepascal.org/contrib/contribs.html
One can post a short description of the library and a link to the website. Then one can use this website to inform others about library updates, post news, etc; but since it will be on a separate website or blog, only people who are interested in this library will see those messages if you know what I mean
I also recommend people who seek FPC libraries for various needs visit this page
Although I realise that contribs section of the FPC website is pretty simplistic, it's just a single web page which contains a flat list of libraries; we can hope to improve it in the future. I remember when it looked quite different from what it looks like now.

I also would like to mention that one has to provide documentation for his or her library to make it usable by other developers; and a decently designed website......./

[Scoops]

Hi all,

I was interrested in Amine's work, i agree with other members that anyone who shares
code should be congraulated, but what got on my nerves was seeing a new post (great),
'Ah that's interresting', and finally it was because of a simple spelling mistake, or repeat
the same thing. I'm not bothered about bad English.  I've battled with French for years
and anyone who understands and writes in another language should be commended.

In one post i asked if he could maybe write a nice GUI app to show exactly what his
code is capable of, he never answered, now i know its because he has problems with
English, but i did'nt ask for Queens English or Shakespear, just a piece of code, i'm sure
he could understand this, and reply, especially for someone who post's so often in English.

That was my only gripe, other than that keep on coding Amine, thats why people come
to this site its to share and learn, but respect abit better the netiquette.

[Bart]

but if he promote his code violating any licenses that it should not be tolerated.

Yes, he should be told so by the mods (don't knwo if they did), and only if he does not take appropriate action should he be banned.

And absolutely should be forbidden to write so many posts on one thread.

I disagree.
As long as he has one thread per library, IMO it's ok to announce updates and bugfixes in that thread.

As for the annoying "talking to himself": if you read a thread by him you stop reading after the first few posts, then you just don't bother anymore. Maybe he has a problem communicating with other people, for which he cannot be held responsible?

I do not think having a poll about banning Aminer is a good thing either.
Yes, he is annoying (in my opnion that is), but there are other channels to try to moderate his behaviour.
It's just not very nice, especially if my previous remarks on his communication skills should be true.

Bart

[aminer]

scoop wrote:
>In one post i asked if he could maybe >write a nice GUI app to show exactly what his
>code is capable of, he never answered


I didin't wrote a GUI  for my code, if you want to do it you can do it..

Other than that i have updated ParallelVarFiler to version 1.25, i have
added carefully {try except} in all the methods so that to catch exceptions and release memory etc. so the user
don't need to manage the exceptions from outside ParallelVarFiler
cause it's inefficient to do it like that, hence ParallelVarFiler
has become more professional and more stable, so if you need to use ParallelVarFiler i advice you to upgrade to version 1.25 that is more stable now.

You can download ParallelVarFiler 1.25 from:

http://pages.videotron.com/aminer/


Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramadne.

[Scoops]

scoop wrote:
>In one post i asked if he could maybe >write a nice GUI app to show exactly what his
>code is capable of, he never answered

I asked that because i don't understand your code and for me a nice GUI app would
be easier for myself, (and maybe others), to show exactly what your code does, ok
that's maybe my fault, i'm not a professional programmer (sorry Amine), we should be
tolerant  i think, i'm learning a new language aswell (Pascal).

My point about a GUI was'nt to criticise it was to help me understand and maybe reach
other users like me who are learning, people want GUI, the days of DOS 6.22 are gone.
For me anyway.

[Scoops]

ParallelVarFiler to version 1.25 great
But i think i'll wait 42 minutes for the really stable 1.26 thanks

[aminer]

scoop wrote:
>I asked that because i don't
>understand your code and for me a
>nice GUI app would be easier for myself, >(and maybe others), other users like me >who are learning, people want GUI, the >days of DOS 6.22 are gone.
>For me anyway.

ParallelVarFiler and Parallel archiver etc. etc. are libraries with many methods in them that you can use from GUI or from  console applications.

Sorry i didn't designed a GUI for my libraries...


Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.

[Scoops]

I know you have wrote a library, what i asked for is a test program, just to show
the program calls from a nice frendly GUI, you include a test program with your
librarys ? for me something visual and friendly, would be easier to understand.
But as i said earlier i'm still learning so as long as i can't understand your code
i suppose i will never use it.

Thanks anyway

Suddenly you are quite good in English, must be some sort of
New Scalable Paralell distributed fair threaded Thingy majig.

[bigeno]

On many forums there is restriction to prevent reply just under self post, can only edit or add new post as edited to self previous post or replay to others, and it is a very good solution.
Author of the message is trying to organize the new information at the beginning of post and remove no longer needed information, and for readers that message is clearer than 40 other self replays. if there is a discussion in that thread then no problem, but main info about product in one first post, like in as example on forum.xda-developers.com
But it is of course IMHO

[Scoops]

After 3 pages of posts, this is the best solution i've heard of, thanks bigeno.
I will second a system like this if it's possible with SMF.

[Rails]

On many forums there is restriction to prevent reply just under self post, can only edit or add new post as edited to self previous post or replay to others, and it is a very good solution.

Some do, but the self reply block usually times out in hours or a day at most, which allows the OP to post an update, even if there has been no replies from other users.  This is needed as major changes and/or additions often need to be more than an edit.

Self reply blocking is really an anti spam tool, more than anything else.

[CaptBill]

The problem is that this thread is in the wrong form.

It is a pure opinion poll.

Instead there could have been an open question to the moderators, as to what and why was done, or is planed to be done.

Open questions where addressed to moderators inside some of the aminer threads. With a "report to moderator" at the same time to attract their attention to the question. Never a single reaction.

I agree that this should have never come that far. But nothing else worked. This is the last and final, desperate move that is left. We are beyond the question of right or wrong form here.

Gee, I'm sorry Ludob. Certainly you are an ace programmer and all    ...
But you are probably not going to be "outsmarting" Mr. Aminer when it comes to "threads", Sir.
Or anyone else it would seem. All I have seen it some nitpicking over a few, easily overlooked things dealing with threads. My God, have you seen the mans repertoire of work?!!

He got railed on for simple "potential memory leaks" in his code! Come on. Now MY intelligence is being insulted.
Personally, if anyone should have full access to the front page posts it would be Mr. Aminer, the "threading guru", rambling on with his every thought. Who hasn't spent at least an hour on Mr. Aminers website?

It's not his fault that threading is so complicated. With his language barrier, he seems to be able to communicate on the subject surprisingly well. I mean, 90% of the problem is the complexity of the subject, not his ability to communicate it. In other words, I think he is very successful in his communication effort on a subject that all of us could only wish to be able to outsmart this guy.

...and now I see that, apparently, his code is very solid, it would seem.

If you or anyone can "outsmart" Professor Aminer then please, were all ears and popcorn.

http://pages.videotron.com/aminer/

[sam707]

All this brought me a stupid question :

why doesn't this forum -as much forum do worldwide- have a "User Resources" section where users wanting to show their works could only put :

1) one of  their site link per project with a clear title and a short description
2) one only updatable message per link indicating last update date of their work

?

I mean Users Resources, that should be... to my opinion, different from 'aproved' 3rd Party by Lazarus. only aproved 3rd parties should be able to open a post to 3rd party anouncement.

just wondering...

please, forgive my stupid question lol