Delphi Starter Edition

[krexon]

http://www.sdtimes.com/link/35223

[SteveF]

And the point is...?

[typo]

And the point is...?

I think it could be:

Pricing and Availability
C++Builder and Delphi Starter editions are now available for $199 each. Users of older Turbo Edition products or any competing IDE or application development tool can upgrade to C++Builder or Delphi Starter for $149 each. Users with Starter edition licenses are entitled to a $100 discount on upgrades to higher editions.

[theo]

Doesn't sound bad.
If they remove activation crap, I'd probably buy a "starter edition".
My last version is D6 bundled with K3.

[typo]

Blasphemy.

[Mike James]

Wow! Full circle 

Delphi went from an affordable Rapid Development System to hugely expensive "Solution Provider". The reason I went to Freepascal / Lazarus was because of Borlands selling technique - why go back 

-=mike=-

[theo]

There are always reasons to use both Lazarus and Delphi.
For me it's that I have coded (for money) some software using TWebBrowser and IFilters (from Indexing Service), Windows Services etc.
Even if it would be possible now to port this software to Lazarus/FPC it's not necessarily worth the trouble, because it's windows centric anyway.
It would probably be a good idea to have a more recent Delphi Version in case the customer wants some upgrade.

[typo]

The strategy shift likely means that the "Solution Provider" has bankrupted.

[marcov]

I think since the two last years Embarcadero had a policy that old versions (<=2006) can't be upgraded anymore, they now think it is safe to do this without it eating into the "main" licenses sales. This news comes within a month (jan 1st) when the offer to D2006 expired.

Since Borland/Embarcadero representatives have said that the old Turbo products were canned because they ate too much into the sales of full licenses,

That's probably als where there is now a revenue cap, rather than a limit wrt functionality.

[TheOne]

C++Builder and Delphi Starter edition users are allowed to have up to five licenses running simultaneously within their network. Users may sell any applications or components developed with these tools until the annual license or service revenue exceeds $1,000 USD or their micro organization exceeds $1,000 in revenue overall. Once this commercial threshold is crossed, or whenever users want enhanced database connectivity or multi-tier development, users should upgrade their licenses to Delphi or C++Builder Professional, Enterprise or Architect editions.

what's that mean   

[theo]

what's that mean   

I don't know. I just remember that Borland had a "no-nonsense License" in the old days and this is far from it.

[Blaazen]

Simply: you buy Delphi Starter Edition for $200, you can create some apps which make money but once you get more than $1000 per year you have to buy some higher licence
Delphi Professional - $900 etc.

you can see prices here: http://shop.embarcadero.com/dr/v2/ec_Main.Entry17c?SID=39696&SP=10024&CID=0&PID=&PN=29&V1=31047844&V2=31047844&CUR=840&DSP=&PGRP=0&ABCODE=&CACHE_ID=0

[michaelthuma]

Theo:

See it pragmatic ... It is a 100 USD introducory offer for the micro ISV ... finally you simply pay the upgrades over the years. And finally the Inital investment into Delphi is to costly the upgrades are never the problem.

We will see what it contains.

I could also mean finally that EMB tries to get lot more customers to reduce the prices ... on a mid term to make the Enterprise version more attractive.

It is an offer too for East Europe European countries, Asia  and South America...

[motaz]

If they want to get more share of development market, then they should offer a free Delphi edition for students. Now all students can get Java, Python, C, C++ for free, but they couldn't get Delphi for free.

[idog]

If they want to get more share of development market, then they should offer a free Delphi edition for students. Now all students can get Java, Python, C, C++ for free, but they couldn't get Delphi for free.

I wouldn't want to be in Embarcadero's shoes in the last couple of years, with the free competitors on one hand and the financial pressures on the other. Maybe they're just not big enough to "hold their breath" with free versions until the market gets used to Delphi again. Under the circumstances they made a good choice. Proof: barring any nasty surprises in the terms & conditions, I'm going to get a Delphi Starter for myself 

One can only hope that this will work for them, and if it will, there's no doubt FPC/Lazarus will also benefit from the renewed attention to Object Pascal. So good luck all around, I guess