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Announcements => Third party => Topic started by: Sternas Stefanos on June 09, 2009, 02:37:07 pm

Title: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Sternas Stefanos on June 09, 2009, 02:37:07 pm
We release a new version 0.922 (Beta) of our Freeware Project CodeTyphon

Pictures   here (http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=1:CodeTyphon&Itemid=152)
Download here (http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=150&task=viewcategory&catid=16)

CodeTyphon Project is a Distribution of Lazarus IDE and FreePascal compiler.
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: audio2 on June 10, 2009, 12:21:59 pm
I started using Codetyphon from version 0.900 and think it is a superb idea to supply Lazarus with all the extra components added.

Thanks...
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Martin_fr on June 10, 2009, 02:31:12 pm
I still haven't figured out, what code-typhon really is....

I got so far:
- it is lazarus + fpc + other freely available components.

Are any of them modified or improved?

Or is code-typhon simply combining them with an installer? (Where does it differ from the installer that comes with lazarus ?)

Also "Lazarus Source from SVN 08-06-2009". Is that the unmodified SVN? I would be interested to know, if the form designer in GTK works, because when I tested (SVN, not code typhon) there seemed to be a regression.


Sorry, *not* trying to make it look bad (I couldn't, since I haven' figured out where it differs from what I know/use).
Just being provocative to find out exactly that.

Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Sternas Stefanos on June 10, 2009, 04:59:44 pm
Don't try it Sir. Is not for you...
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Vincent Snijders on June 10, 2009, 05:59:47 pm
Why not?
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Sternas Stefanos on June 10, 2009, 06:21:31 pm
Because it is obvious why, Sir
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Vincent Snijders on June 10, 2009, 06:30:17 pm
Sorry, but to me it is not obvious, otherwise I would not have asked.
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Sternas Stefanos on June 10, 2009, 06:44:32 pm
I will explain to you too Sir.
For using CodeTyphon you must accept  the CodeTyphon  philosophy
<<Put more packages to Lazarus with more buildings for freePascal>>.
If you think that Lazarus is OK, then DO NOT use CodeTyphon.
It's clear to me...
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Martin_fr on June 10, 2009, 07:21:52 pm
Well 1 or 2 things I want to say here:

Using it, or feeling the urge to do or not to do so (it being for me or not) is different from (even so dependent on) understanding why this urge may or may not be existent.

Let me first of all express may gratitude, for having lessened the amount of work on my plate. Such generous help being given for free is seldom found those days.

Yet even so I know I must not try to use your product, since I will fail to like it (so you have told me), I still lack the understanding why this is (don't tell me the answer is 42).

As for any conclusions, which I conceive have been made about me, I must correct you in saying that I am far from being a minimalist. But I am a man of choice. Not all is good just for it exists. From those that qualify, I do select as need demands.

Let me further try and interpret. And please correct me if I should be wrong. Your reply being far from an answer does suggest, that you yourself have little to say about what makes your product. Consequently I must believe I was right in first: All it is is a bundle of existing stuff and maybe a custom made installer. So why not say it? Bundles, if advertised as this and clearly marked are a great thing.

On the other hand let me quote your page:
"
CodeTyphon is a "Pascal Programming Platform",
with Lazarus+FPC+Tools+Free Components+Free Libraries and all these with full source.
"

This does not make clear if "with..." means
 "the full contents"
 "also included in addition to the Code Typhon part"

Therefore I had ask, if there was anything else, which may interest me, or any one else here.

The same need for clarification arise from:
  CodeTyphon is a "Pascal Programming Platform"
Is it, or does it contain?
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Sternas Stefanos on June 10, 2009, 07:58:27 pm
Sorry Sir but, I don't have time for this...
I am not forum user.
If you want to learn what CodeTyphon is, simple just try it.
I have to port pl_AGGpas and pl_GLScene CodeTyphon packages to Win64/Linux64 and to prepare pl_DirectX 9.2 and pl_Direct 10.1 packages for
next release...

But, for your information in our company we use CodeTyphon 0.922 BETA for make cross-platform 2D, 3D and Database Applications, look at our pictures (http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=1:CodeTyphon&Itemid=152).
What else to say?

Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: tatamata on June 10, 2009, 09:02:40 pm
I'd like to know what are advantages of Code Typhon over regular Lazarus?
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: LazaruX on June 10, 2009, 10:33:22 pm
Please don't feel offended from my words   O:-)     (  >:D )

We release a new version 0.922 (Beta) of our Freeware Project CodeTyphon

Maybe you mean OPEN SOURCE, since ALL the code you use seems to be just an assembly of Lazarus + FPC + something else

Sorry Sir but, I don't have time for this...
I am not forum user.

What do you do here (in the forum) then?
Sorry, but saying to somebody that is interested in your project: "I don't have time for this" seems like saying f**k off and don't bother me. If somebody asks, then answer and don't use those words.

If you want to learn what CodeTyphon is, simple just try it.

I have to port pl_AGGpas and pl_GLScene CodeTyphon packages to Win64/Linux64 and to prepare pl_DirectX 9.2 and pl_Direct 10.1 packages for next release...

It seems you have some good skills, why don't you invest your time in helping Lazarus/FPC. There are still several bugs to be fixed and a lot of features to be added, people with good skills are necessary.

What else to say?

Nothing please  >:(

Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: audio2 on June 11, 2009, 12:43:52 am
I still think Codetyphon is superb....... The fact that the freely available components are freely available is irrelevant .
It uses a newer version of Lazarus from the stable release 0.9.26, but I find it very stable.
Previously to this I only ever used the stable release, but the 0.9.27 ide is better.
I like all the components installed for you.
I like the fact the guy doing this doesn't want my cash, just like the Lazarus and FPC developers, and unlike the people advertising there $69 skinning plugins.
The codetyphon guy gives you the option to try it, by letting you know it is available.
So whats the problem?


audio2
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Martin_fr on June 11, 2009, 01:25:20 am
Hi audio2,

Id on;t think anyone here has said anything bad about code typhon. For my part, I definitely have not.

Au contraire, we have shown our interest by asking further question about the product.
I suppose the product being announced here, actually wants people to be interested?

No answer was gotten to those question.
Mind there were plenty of replies => they just did not answer the question.

And yes one of my later comments was worded in a way which can be seen as having some sting, but again this was not against the product. But more against the attitude of the original poster, who despite announcing it tries to make it a secret. Or something like this. Frankly I do not get it.


And to Sternas Stefanos.
Quote:  "Sorry Sir but, I don't have time for this..."

For some one with no time for this, you have posted an awful lot of replies, within a single day... :)

As for my question, please forget about it. I lost my interest. :(
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Troodon on June 16, 2009, 01:27:56 am
Sorry Sir but, I don't have time for this...

Hi Stefanos (I believe Stefanos is your first/given name; if not then I owe you an apology),

It seems to me that that everybody here is appreciative of your work. It appears that you took the standard Lazarus/FPC release code, added useful components and examples that are not included/active by default, and open-sourced the resulting package. It is more than what many forum users are willing or are capable to do. That is a commendable effort.

You might actually have done much more that that, but we really don't know yet; and here is the issue -- we are only trying to figure out what exactly is CodeTyphon before we put in the time and effort to install it on our computers. It would be greatly appreciated if you added more information at your web site, or if you explained here in more detail what are the differences between the standard Lazarus/FPC distribution and CodeTyphon, what are the benefits of CodeTyphon. It often happens that excellent software developers need to take the extra step required to become good marketing people. :)

Thank you and good luck!
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Lord_ZealoN on June 16, 2009, 11:43:03 am
I like the fact the guy doing this doesn't want my cash, just like the Lazarus and FPC developers, and unlike the people advertising there $69 skinning plugins.

What do you do to pay your bills? If you pay your bills, with a restaurant, please, let me go to it, and dinner for free, thanks.

The people advertising 69$ skinning plugins, develop it, and live of the sales. If you dont like this, don't pay for it, develop it yourself, and if you don't have the skills, sorry for you. Saying things like this, is an insult to software developers thath lives from his work.

Some people like OpenSource, others, closed source, all options, are valid options, and must be respected. Oh! and OpenSource != Free

P.D.: Sorry for the offtopic, but I hate comments like this, criticizing the work of others, only because is not free.
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Lord_ZealoN on June 16, 2009, 11:51:55 am
About the main topic, I think a description about what is it more clearly would be more proper than "Sorry Sir but, I don't have time for this...".

This answer is a fault of respect for the future potential users, then, if you don't have time to explain it, or not are a forum user, why you share with us here?

"Sorry Sir but, I don't have time to try it..."


OMG, Today I wake up wanting war :D  %)
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: audio2 on June 16, 2009, 03:00:36 pm
hey zealon how old are you, 12?

you say

Quote
all options, are valid options, and must be respected.

Then you say

Quote
Sorry for the offtopic, but I hate comments like this, criticizing the work of others, only because is not free.

Anyone with a brain bigger than a very small pea, will understand that the word hate is inappropriate in light of current world events.

Plus I use Lazarus because I can not buy Delphi 7 , and choose not to use a pirated copy which we all know is easily available and free.
I am a software developer, I write software and SELL IT!
I would willingly pay for....
Lazarus and FPC
and Zeoslib

As for Skinning plugins, I wouldn't buy anything like that, I also wouldn't use it if it was free.
As I said earlier I was expressing an opinion. "You know the thing you said should be respected"

and finally.....

Quote
OMG, Today I wake up wanting war
Maybe I was mistaken about my assumption of your age.
Maybe your 6.

audio2

Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Paul Ishenin on June 16, 2009, 04:31:22 pm
Please stop that stream of invectives or I will close this topic at all.
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: Lord_ZealoN on June 16, 2009, 04:33:56 pm
Please stop that stream of invectives or I will close this topic at all.

I don't have nothing more to say, and we did too much noise.

My apologies.
Title: Re: CodeTyphon Ver 0.922 Beta
Post by: avatar on June 17, 2009, 12:31:05 pm
I think this is just a case of miscommunication. Lets just give Sternas a chance to explain what CodeTyphon really is.
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