Lazarus
Miscellaneous => Suggestions => IDE/CodeTools => Topic started by: PhilipCopeman on April 28, 2007, 10:09:12 pm
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Can I introduce myself - I am Philip Copeman from the TurboCASH Accounting project - 100 000 lines of Delphi that I want to convert to Lazarus. We have 50 000 users so it will be a long and painful process. I am determined to do it. I have been with Delphi for over 20 years, so this was no light decision.
I am looking forward to a long downstreaming relationship with Lazarus. In the TurboCASH project I specialise in Graphics and User interface. So before I start asking you for things, here is my opening contribution to you guys:
I find the Lazarus program image a little old fashioned and not keeping up with the new Aero look or using Alpha channel for that gloss effect. The main Splash is OK, but is starting to look a little Windows 98ish. The ugly little pic, of the Cheetah looks really bad as a program logo in 16X16 and the cat on the pole loses impact at 48X48 on the desktop.
The program Icons in the tool bars are definitely in need of an upgrade and the basic components default to a very old fashioned look - we can get to that later, lets begin with the program Icon and its representation in 48X48 and 16X16.
You should be looking to Vista and Gnome for leadership in this area. The vast majority of downloaders will make a decision on the quality of your code in a few seconds of visual contact with your program,the decision to actually look at the quality of your code is secondary - KNOCK EM DEAD WITH ONE PUNCH!
Here are some suggestions
These images are available in .ico and .png and in High res .Jpeg and very high res .psp http://www.box.co.za/wiki/index.php/Lazarus_Logos
Here is an example of implementing these prnciples in Flags for international versions of the program.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Vista_icons#Button_Flags
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Welcome.
"The vast majority of downloaders will make a decision on the quality of your code in a few seconds of visual contact with your program."
Now I understand Microsoft...
In my opinion, interface could reflect code quality. Free Pascal and Lazarus pages on Internet are beauty, beauty like open source idea, like Free Pascal and Lazarus ideas.
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Well, he has a point, and you don't have to see it as bad as you do.
I for example, take a look at screenshots before I download anything. And if I see that the software uses a bunch custom controls, doesn't stick to the smallest amount of user interface guidelines, if I see flat instead of standard buttons for example, or if I see an app uses .NET, I don't even download it, making that decisions in just a few seconds.
But, on the other hand: I absolutely like the current image - it reflects Lazarus very well! It has a meaning - actually multiple ones, from standing atop of that other greek IDE to RAD to including the name. All of that is missing in PhilipCopemans suggestions (which are nice, but just don't fit imho).
Regarding the toolbar icons: I like them as well as they are. They're far above the 9x standard, and more important - they are clearer to recognizethan most toy new icons. An option to toogle to 24x24 sized icons would be nice, I have to admit that (just for very high resolutions), but otherwise I think they're more a sign for a good quality beneath than the Delphi IDE, which imho is showing that CodeGear spends too much time on good looks and too few time on quality.
As for the component icons - Delphi showed how bad new icons can be. The newer Delphi component icons are all way more "modern", which only leads to me spending way too much time finding what I need, while the current icons are much easier for locating whatever one is looking for (and yes, I use a horizontal toolbar in Delphi as well, so I can compare directly, not just with that new vertical bar).
The main icon could one improvement though, that's the point where I totally agree :)
The Cheetah suggestion without a background would probably immediately get my vote, if it wasn't 275 KB just for the icon :D and if it would look a bit clearer in 16x16 and 32x32 (resolutions still used most often).
The one thing that lets the IDE look outdated is that it doesn't support docking. That indeed looks very unprofessional (imho), and doesn't reflect too good on Lazarus. But for that, you would have to provide code patches, not graphics ;)
And while the FreePascal internet pages look really nice, this Lazarus portal here looks like a cheap gamers clan forum. I personally don't have any problem with that though.
So, to sum it up: if I had to decide on Lazarus on a quick first look, the current toolbar icons and the splash screen would win over any Vista-style-big-bigger-biggest-artwork.
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One could say the best Public Relations of Lazarus is Lazarus itself. If code is bad represented by interface, something could be done.
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CCRDude
Glad to know that there are some people that are thinking about this. Don't get too stuck up on Vista. Follow what they are doing in Gnome and Ubuntu. Without doubt every major project needs an art team to handle these issues.
What we do in TurboCASH is give the user the ability to configure his interface from within the program and certainly you should have an option to pick up the Themes of the OS that you are running on.
The idea is not not to plan our own interface, but to make the develoeprs comming into project have an easy entry and to have the output code easily fit into the new interfaces. Sorry about your desire for flat icons, but that simply is not that way the work s going. You will simply be out of step is you don't move with them.
Interface is not really something that Lazarus can determine, they can only follow. I am not an interace designer - I am an interface thief.
I am afraid Icons will keep getting bigger. This is domoanited by Vista, either you follow them or you will end up shortly looking like all those classic DOS programs.
OK let mwe work on the 16 Bit icons.
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Lazarus is different then most other programs as it's targeted at software developers, and not end users, so having clear icons and a clean interface is much more important then eye-candy.
About the Vista general icons for file open and other routines, imho the current lazarus icons are better and clearer
Of course we always need improved looks, but I'm not convinced of this particular sugestions.
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Hello everybody, well, Version 1.0.0 of Lazarus is coming, and we need to celebrate this event. I also thinks that the logo and the icons are a bit out of fashion, for this reason I have decided to draw a new logo for Lazarus.
Here it is.
(http://www.freewebs.com/bpsoftware/Lazarus_Test_Logo_1.png)
Why is the logo designed so? Well, its art, here is the explanation.
The images under are the logos of various operating systems, with the meaning that Lazarus is cross platform and it works on different OS's. In the image above the Leopard isn still anymore, but he jumped away from the coulumn, because this will happen with the release of Laarus 1.0.0 the project will take its way ahead and jump!!
I would like to know from other users what they think og this logo, where can it be perfectionated and if they would like this to become the new logo of Lazarus.
I really hope you like it.
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Nice idea, when the time is there, i'll think of it. We might use it on some relase news. However, I like the old fonts & drawing of "the Lazarus project" more than these
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Well, the fonts can be changed. But which drawings where you referring to? I will make other modifycations and publish them here.
Did you ment this fonts?
http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/
Better?
(http://www.freewebs.com/bpsoftware/Lazarus_test_Logo_2.png)
Write your suggestions...Bye[/img]
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Cool, but I dislike the OS/2 logo, the 'old' (http://images.google.es/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sci.muni.cz/~mikulik/figs/os2logo.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.sci.muni.cz/~mikulik/compENG.html&h=305&w=305&sz=7&hl=es&start=1&um=1&tbnid=VrxPtTRCPC4SZM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3DLOGO%2BOS/2%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Des%26lr%3Dlang_es%26sa%3DN) one was more beautiful.
=> (http://www.sci.muni.cz/~mikulik/figs/os2logo.gif)
By the way, may be it's possible to use the eComStation logo (http://images.google.es/imgres?imgurl=http://www.russharvey.bc.ca/os2/graphics/e-ball.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.russharvey.bc.ca/os2/ecs.html&h=146&w=150&sz=6&hl=es&start=18&um=1&tbnid=w2TuVhjoIYgXUM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3DeComStation%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Des%26lr%3Dlang_es%26sa%3DG), since that's the latest release for OS/2.
=> (http://www.russharvey.bc.ca/os2/graphics/e-ball.jpg)
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You are actually right, I will change the OS/2 Logo, I don't know with which one with the ol one or maybe with the eCom station, I will make some tests,
By the way, what do you think of the title, is it better or was the previous bettere? or do you have any other ideas?
Ant ideas of any user is welcomr
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Can "The Lazarus Project" be as simple as "freepascal" word? Then your logo will look more professional. Current title is good for some shooter game but not for professional software.
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I mean the
Free Pascal
Lazarus
Project text&drawing as you can see in the logo on the topleft of this page.
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Well, maybe this is a bit better
I wanted to add the ReactOS logo, but I am not sure Lazarus works on it. Somebody knows it=
Please continue to post your suggestions.
(http://www.freewebs.com/bpsoftware/Lazarus_test_Logo_3.png)
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Does Lazarus work on OS/2?
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Check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_(software)
[...]Free Pascal is an open source compiler that runs on Linux, Win32, OS/2, Mac OS X, BSD, 68K and more [...]
so if reppascal does, then Lazarus should also
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Why windows' logo not using the "windows"? Is it the official logo of windows os now?
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Interesting thoughts about the logos and icons but they assume that all are visually orientated. I clearly am not. In icons I related to 'Back', 'Forward' and 'Home' on my browser - but it took me 10 years to realise that 2 arrows in a circle meant 'Refresh'.
The saying is, "A picture says a thousand words", but for me, 1000 words confuse , when "File-->Save.." says it all.
Graphically oriented people put much importance on this --- but most people just want to know how to find the tools they need easily and quickly.
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I had already though to change the Windows Logo to the windows, and I probably will changed as you sad. Or maybe combine them.
Well, a logo is just the graphics, you don't need to click anywhere. A logo is art. Art must be understud. For example if you look ad the "MOnna Lisa" image you (Pascaluvr) will probably only see a women, but other people will catch the message inside it. So thie icons in this logo will be a message. Today visuality is really important, things, persons are firsteble judged from their aspect, so a nice logo will be very attractive for other programmers.
10 years? common, really? You know if you take the mouse over an icon a hint will appear, maybe you will learn new buttons ;-).
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10 years? common, really? You know if you take the mouse over an icon a hint will appear, maybe you will learn new buttons ;-).
Yes, really! I just learnt it last year.
And yes, I do realise that hovering the mouse over a button will give me a hint, but if I have to put the mouse over several buttons before I find the function I want, it is clearly much quicker for me to go to a logically organised text menu.
The majority of people do think in pictures, and so toolbars, icons, etc are really great for them. I was just trying to point out though, that not all are graphically oriented and that it should not be the only emphasis.
For example, the 'Lazarus: write once - compile anywhere' phrase sticks in my mind far more than any logo.
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Yeah, I think you where right BEE, the Windows logo is better.
Hey Pascaluvr, you are sometimes right, but I listen, if I click File -->Save, then I must click 2 times, clicking on the floppy icon is only one clock , faster. So graphics has its benefits.
However, I am drawing a logo, and a logo must have graphics, i think most users will agree with me.
(http://www.freewebs.com/bpsoftware/Lazarus_test_Logo_4.png)
Continue to send your suggestions, until we get the final logo for release 1.0.0
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To be more precise Lazarus doesn't support OS/2 or eComStation. Putting this on the logo would give a wrong image.
And what is the N? NextStep? I think we also don't support that. NextStep doesn't even exist anymore except for Cocoa on Mac OS X.
And the butter fly? Is that BeOS? Someone created some basic lazarus support for BeOS, but unfortunatelly he never submited patches, so his code is not on our repository.
Maybe some icons could be added to show that it can produce software for PDA, like windows ce and linux based PDAs
Another OS where Lazarus works, afaik, and itsn't listed above is Solaris.
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Well, if you say that Lazarus doesn't support OS/2 then i will remove it (but freepascal supports it).
The N stands for Netware from Novell, I have read it supports it.
The butterfly stands for Morph OS, i have also read it supports it.
I agree with your idea of the PDA, i will add those icons. I will also add the logo of AFAIK, please post me any name of other OS that lazarus supports. And any mistakes
Merci boucoup
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Hey Pascaluvr, you are sometimes right, but I listen, if I click File -->Save, then I must click 2 times, clicking on the floppy icon is only one clock , faster. So graphics has its benefits.
I never said that graphics doesnt have its benifits for those that can relate to them. If fact I stated they were great.
Sure, clicking on an icon is faster for you, but since an icon means nothing to me, hovering over each of the icons to get the toolhelp to find the right one is far slower for me.
If icons were the answer for everyone why do we even have text menus and keyboard shortcuts? The reason is because people are different! Text menus work for me - icons work for others and keyboard for even others.
Design things that are just for your own tastes and you will definitely loose a lot of support.
With that in mind, why not change the logo text from "Lazarus Project" to "Write once, Compile anywhere". It fits with your theme of the visual op system logos and actually says something about what lazarus is.
Text and graphics combined that express a common theme.
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You are right, in fact i also use menus sometimes, i use icons only for actions i do very often.
I don't want to loose support, I would like to design something that everybody likes, so please send me your suggestions. What do you like and what don;y you like from the logo?
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You are right, in fact i also use menus sometimes, i use icons only for actions i do very often.
I don't want to loose support, I would like to design something that everybody likes, so please send me your suggestions. What do you like and what don;y you like from the logo?
I think I edited my post while you were responding... so to cut and paste the relevent part:
With that in mind, why not change the logo text from "Lazarus Project" to "Write once, Compile anywhere". It fits with your theme of the visual op system logos and actually says something about what lazarus is.
Text and graphics combined that express a common theme.
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Ok, I will add that text, I am not sure if i will remove the word Project, I will maybe write:
Lazarus
Project
Write once Compile everywhere
Thanks, any other suggestion is welcome, i will post the new logo soon
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Thanks, any other suggestion is welcome, i will post the new logo soon
Let a graphic designer do the job. ;-) GD&R
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Why Teo? Don't you like the logo? Maybe I am a graphic designer.
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I didn't say I could do it better, but I know that I'm not a graphic designer.
I think the old logo looks more professional, although it's not really great.
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Well, if you say that Lazarus doesn't support OS/2 then i will remove it (but freepascal supports it).
Yes, free pascal supports it, but lazarus doesn't. With a icon on the splash screen people will think that their LCL software or even that lazarus itself can run on OS/2, which isn't true.
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Thanks for the explanation, tell me are the other logo's ok? Or did I made any other mistake.
Tell me also what do you think of the look of the logo. What is your opinion. What can I change?
Bye
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Here are some modifications I have made.
(http://www.freewebs.com/bpsoftware/Lazarus_test_Logo_5.png)
Continue to tell your opinion and suggestions.
Bye
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What is the central logo with a ball?
The PDA icon looks nice indeed
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The ball is the logo of ReactOS a windows clone, a sort of Windows free distribution. http://ReactOS.org
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I think it's cool!
Bart
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I'm not a graphic designer too (though I have made some graphical works for free to my friends), but I think that something simpler could look more professional:
(http://upload8.postimage.org/621067/LazLogoNew.jpg) (http://upload8.postimage.org/621067/photo_hosting.html)
Well, something similar :)
PS. This logo is transparent, so you can change the background color.
PPS. I know, this image is huge... I have the SVG file, so if you want, I can make smaller (or even bigger! :shock:) logos.
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I personally don't like your logo more than my logo, I think the new logo should attract new users, new programmers.
I also think that some icons should be changed. One icon for each extension. This icon
(http://www.freewebs.com/bpsoftware/leopard.png)
is a nice icon, and is actually used for 2 extensions: te .lpi and the .lpr, I thnik this icon should only be used for the LPR extension, and that we must create a new icon for the LPI extension.
I personally don't like this icon:
(http://www.freewebs.com/bpsoftware/pas.png)
I think it should be changed with a new one,
The LFM icon gives a good idea of what the file is and does, but I personally don't like it very much, maybe the colors, I don't know.
I am working to create some examples, hoping other users will like them. I will try to create them with a resolution of 256x256 pixel, so that it will be Vista compatible.
PS If you have problems changing the icon of your application, its because Lazarus doesn't yet support that, try searching in this forum and you will find the solution, or search on google for Wi(n)XtaP.
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Personally I don't like logos made with real photos, or logos with too much colors, or even logos with hundred of stuff on it. A logo should be easy to recognize and should create an immediate association image<->product. Today the trend followed by designers is "simplify it as much as possible": for example you can look at Nike (http://www.goodlogo.com/cases/nike/) logo history.
Today the accusation to Lazarus is that it looks unprofessional. Maybe It could sound a bit harsh, so I'm sorry in advance if you will feel offended, but
your logo IMHO does not look more professional than the old one. Instead, it could be a good splash screen (even tough I would like to simplify it a little bit).
About the icons (one icon -> one extension) I totally agree :)
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When I started to draw the logo, I did it, because i didn't like the old one, I have realized that the logo of Lazarus actuais the same of the freepascal's one, the Leopard. What I have made is ment to replace the old one, the old one is also "a complicated logo", how other people say, so, it maybe isn't a logo, but its the replacing of the old image.
To Leoglas: Tell me what would you simplify? What can I modify
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I agree that logo <> splash screen.
@Legolas: Not bad. I personally like it with the (unintended) black bar at the bottom in the link above ("Click here..."). ;-)
Probably the text should go there? White "Lazarus" with the Font we're used to and a red fading "Project" ?
I think it "stands" good on this bar.
@BPSoftware: Too many colors, too many textures, a font that does not go well with the images and a font that has nothing to do with Lazarus so far, uninspired positioning of elements. Sorry BPSoftware, no offense, but it seems that you don't have the "eye" for this job.
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I accept your critics, but please dont only critic, and give also suggestions,
Why do you think that the miages don't go well with Lazarus? I have explained the reason of the images abovee, they mean that Lazarus is cross compatible.
And the fonts? Tell me, which font would you like?
Well , I have got a new idea, wait and see, maybe you both will like it ...
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I'm not talking about the OS logos, they are nice for a splash screen.
About fonts: You shouldn't choose and change logo-fonts arbitrarily. They are an essential part of the recognition of a product.
If you do it anyway, you need a very good reason and it has to be good for at least a decade ;-)
Companies hardly ever change their fonts and if then only very slightly.
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What do you think about this logo?
The white background is also transparent. Would this be a nice replacement for the actual logo? Would you like this as a splash screen? Does somebody have any suggestion?
(http://www.freewebs.com/bpsoftware/BPsoftware%20Lazarus%20Logo.png)
PS For Theo, I haven't changed the font now, but if somebody post nice font, I can modify the actual fonts.
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That's much more better than your previous one :)
Just a suggestion: the cheetah should be tilted from the left to right and from the bottom to top:
tail --- head
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People unconsciously judges bad things that go from up to to the bottom.
However my idea is that it's good for a splash screen, not for a logo
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Well, maybe my english is not very good, but I have not understood what you meant. what is a cheetah? What should be placed lefto to right bottom to top?
Can you please explein better, thenks
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a cheetah is an animal well known for its speed. It is the mascotte or fpc and therefore a very welcome part of a Lazarus splash screen.
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No, it is my English that's awful :D
I'll try to explain better. Your cheetah seems that is touching the ground with front legs, so the whole figure seems tilted to the bottom. You should rotate it a bit in counter-clockwise direction, so it will seem that is touching the ground with posterior legs.
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One remark: Althougth NetWare support is theoritically possible, supposing that Gtk runs well on it, I don't think anyone ever tested Lazarus with NetWare, and I've never heard of reports that this works ok.
And Lazarus doesn't support MorphOS, and none of the current lazarus widgetsets run on it.
On the other hand, I've already seen reports that Lazarus works well with Solaris, that could be added.
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OK, I will modify it as you sad, I wanted to add solaris, but I was unsure about it.
Loegolas, I have now understod, I will maybe modify the image
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Well, in the past I have made some mistakes with the logos, but with help of other users I have corrected them, there may now be also some mistakes, so please notify me them
I have rechanged the image
(http://www.freewebs.com/bpsoftware/BPsoftware%20Lazarus%20Logo%202.png)
The processor wants to mean that Lazarus works also on different processor technologies (I have read so, x86 and power pc).
I would like to add another simple image before the Leopard, a really simple image with only a few lines, maybe the face of the Leopard,
Legolas, I haven't rotated the Leopard yet, because I think that i will then modify its natural position, the leopard is nearly at the finish of its jump, thats because he is touching the ground with tha front legs.
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I like the cheetah as it is. I think it shows that it's keeping in touch with reality (ground). Not like some other compilers and languages that looses touch with the ground and depends on clouds for support.
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Why Teo? Don't you like the logo? Maybe I am a graphic designer.
That you are not, not even a student of graphic design, can be easily seen when looking at the copy'n'paste artefacts everywhere, the missing and/or very bad anti-aliasing, the font that's ugly (the "e" is difficult to recognize) ;)
I'm not a graphic designer myself (only know one constantly critizing my own attempts at graphics), but the overall quality of your work is very inferior too the current logo.
Sorry, I wouldn't have said so harsh if you hadn't feigned to be a pro ;)
Re: Novell Netware: since modern Netware is all just Suse, that would be require to name all other Linux distributions as well, since it's basically nothing else (and no, the non-Linux versions of Network didn't have any Gtk, the last version I've seen even has just some ugly Java graphical user interface).
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I know what you are referring to, you mean that white pixel round the picutres i have copied and pasted,.
What i have made is only to give the idea to other users, if they like it, then i will spend more time indetails,...
However, do you like the idea or not?
I haddent feigned to be a pro, I only told him (Teo) that i could be that, how ever.
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Hi, I'm new here in the forum. I'm an old Delphi programmer but I've always followed Lazarus also. I've used it on some personal projects and it was very funny. Now I would contribute to the lazarus project with this splash screen that I did as proposal for the new release of Lazarus.
If you like it you will be free to use as you want.
(http://www.vignadeicardinali.it/lazarus/Lazarus-1.jpg)
Any suggestions to change something are welcome.
Bye, :)
Orlando.
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Way better. It looks good. Thank you.
But the Cheetah is too small for a logo. Either you skip it completely or you make it more prominent.
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Hi orlando, congratulation, you made a good work, your logo seems made by a professional. But there are still thinkgs I do't like. I like the logos of BSD and solaris you used more than my logos, I actually like a lot the bottom part of the logo, the above part is made good, but i do't like it very much.
I have got a proposal for you and all the other users. Listen, everybody can try to make a logo and post it here, but it then will be more like a competition, than its real purpose. I propose you to work together to one logo.
Bye
BPsoftware(S)
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That's nice :) However I can't find where a major contributor stated that Lazarus needs a new logo :P
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Orlando, use this picture with some effect to make it more hand painting
(http://www.duesternbrook.net/img/gallery/activities/b_cheetah_4.jpg)
It is full with power :)
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please decrypt what bottom glyps mean:
1. MS
2. Linux
3. Apple
4 ?
5 ?
6 ?
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Hi
please decrypt what bottom glyps mean:
1. MS
2. Linux
3. Apple
4 ?
5 ?
6 ?
4th is ReactOS (http://www.reactos.org)
5th i think is BSD
6th i think is Solaris
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1. Microsoft
2. Linux
3. Apple Mac OS
4. ReactOS (a sort of windows distribution, a free windows clone visit http://ReactOS.org for more information)
5. BSD or freeBSD (mostly used for servers)
6. Solaris from Sun Microsystem (a OS based on UNIX, also used for servers)
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Please dont forget which widgetsets lazarus supports and which is no.
Supported widgetsets:
- win32/64 (so Microsoft icon is ok)
- wince (same)
- gtk1 (Linux icon)
- gtk2 (supports Linux and Windows, but last worse)
- carbon (Mac OS X)
- qt (tested at least at windows and linux. dont know if other)
- fpgui (very poor support)
So I dont know if anybody tested lazarus on ReactOS or Solaris. Please dont use that icons on logo. They can confuse users and bring wrong expecations about lazarus abilities. Not every supported by FPC os or platform is supported in Lazarus.
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It was already tested on Solaris, and works normally AFAIK.
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However, I don't know if including this kind of information in the splash screen is a good idea. Then we would need to update it everytime something changes.
I think the splash screen should be simple and good looking.
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However, I don't know if including this kind of information in the splash screen is a good idea. Then we would need to update it everytime something changes.
I think the splash screen should be simple and good looking.
I agree.
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Hi,
I agree with sekel.
I am in graphic publicity, it is better a beautiful logo which shines ...
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You should have a look at the Compiz Fusion project.
Compiz and The Beryl Project merged and have changed name to Compiz Fusion. To reflect this change they wanted a new logo as well.
If you take a look at this massive thread:
http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=835
You will see a lot of different ideas and some thought processes about the logo design.
Edit: Also, you might want to take a look at the Tango Desktop Project guidelines (http://tango.freedesktop.org/)
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Hi everybody again,
well I came to this ocnclusion.
For the release of Lazarus 1.0 and allits subversions in the future like lazarus 1.1, 1.2,.1.3, ...(1.x) we should use the actual logo, just because somebody worked at it, and it should not be fair to don't even used in the first version.
Then for the future when someday version 2.0 will come, then we can change the logo.
PS JUHL, interesting link :-)
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Lazarus is different then most other programs as it's targeted at software developers, and not end users, so having clear icons and a clean interface is much more important then eye-candy.
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THis is classically flawed thinking. Us Techies want this to be true, but its not. Even designers like impressive looking interfaces, and it influences their decision on what product to use.
I think that Free Pascal and Lazarus have lots of promise, but attitudes like this too often kill a good thing, and too often such people never realize why.
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As Lazarus is still a child here is my proposle:
(http://www.vilex.cc/lazarus/Lazarus-32_32.jpg)
32x32
(http://www.vilex.cc/lazarus/Lazarus-48_48.jpg)
48x48
(http://www.vilex.cc/lazarus/Lazarus-64_64.jpg)
64x64
Download from
http://www.vilex.cc/lazarus/Lazarus-32_32.ico
http://www.vilex.cc/lazarus/Lazarus-48_48.ico
http://www.vilex.cc/lazarus/Lazarus-64_64.ico
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About a year ago PhilipCopeman opened this thread about the state of Lazarus Project artwork. A big step has been done with the new icons in the IDE, but what about the logo and the icon? I'd like to ask if there is any chance that the Lazarus icon will change to one of the ones PhilipCopeman pointed (I really like them - and I would like to know if they are copyrighted :) ) .
Thanks in adnvance, cyber_python.
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After Year post:
New Icon
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1798/lazarusicon.png
New Logo (splash screen):
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7386/lazarussplash.png
And svg files to create proper sizes:
http://www.fileshost.com/download.php?id=42B88FA41
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8-) 8-) 8-)
-> Logo Built With (http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,6674.0.html) <-
;D ;D ;D