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Aruna

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The 'About Lazarus' Form
« on: August 10, 2024, 04:39:45 pm »
Hi everyone! I have been working on a new logo and would love to get your feedback. Any thoughts or suggestions for improvement would be greatly appreciated. What do you guys think? Please see the attached screenshot.
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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2024, 07:00:53 pm »
Ignoring the "About Lazarus" reference, and just about "some logo": For my personal taste, to dark, to ostentatious. (Sorry, just my subjective first vibe I get from it)

As for "About Lazarus form", you may want to search the forum. That topic has been discussed before, and there are unlikely to be changes...

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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2024, 07:14:58 pm »
And I might add that if you are capable to build Lazarus from source this is very, very easy.
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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2024, 09:25:33 pm »
It's very decorative, but pretty dark.  The Ionic column in the current logo is a nice subtle reference to connections with Delphi.

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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2024, 10:05:26 pm »
Ignoring the "About Lazarus" reference, and just about "some logo": For my personal taste, to dark, to ostentatious. (Sorry, just my subjective first vibe I get from it)
Thank you for your feedback. I should have mentioned this is for my personal use in my Lazarus installation. I was asking for feedback and very much appreciate your honesty. And no need to say sorry that was the way you felt, which is fine by me.

Ostentatious would be a little extreme. I try to deliver a polished end product that the end user ( end user in this case is me ) finds attractive enough he/she is tempted to explore further. Sometimes folks stumble upon demos and never give them a second look. My thinking is if we have a shiny product most people will be interested. I agree 110% the looks should not really matter when it comes to software but this is the sad reality on the ground. Long years ago I was using Clipper 5.3 and the customer was happy with the product, it did what he wanted. But not so happy with the dos look and feel. I gave it a gui front-end using lightlib which slowed things down considerably but the customer was a very happy cookie. Tried to explain the tradeoff in speed but was told to leave things the way they are. Since then I stopped asking questions and simply did 'exactly' what the customer wants ( every one is happy this way )

Just to clarify when I click Help then click About Lazarus the form that pops up has a title/Caption that says 'About Lazarus' that is why I wrote the subject line as such. If that was somehow confusing or incorrect my apologies. I am still learning about the forums.

As for "About Lazarus form", you may want to search the forum. That topic has been discussed before, and there are unlikely to be changes...
I was not trying to change anything. Just wanted some honest feedback and I believe I was given some. I have attached screenshots of 'lighter' versions  :)
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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2024, 10:14:41 pm »
The colours matched to original ( somewhat ) please see attached screenshot
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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2024, 10:23:41 pm »
And I might add that if you are capable to build Lazarus from source this is very, very easy.
HI @Thaddy I am not sure I understand what is very, very easy?  :-\
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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2024, 10:26:11 pm »
It's very decorative, but pretty dark.  The Ionic column in the current logo is a nice subtle reference to connections with Delphi.
I had no idea about the Ionic column or the links to Delphi. More reading to do now.. (The darker it gets the easier it is to read with white text.)
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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2024, 12:51:57 am »
And no need to say sorry that was the way you felt, which is fine by me.
Just wanted to make sure that it was "my impression". Rather than a professional review.

Ostentatious would be a little extreme.

Pompous? But that is similar. The thing is when I looked at it, I thought its like trumpets in the background: "Here comes the emperor himself, kowtow now". :)

And well,...
1) That may be the idea (I don't know) to show off the greatness of Lazarus.
2) Greek pillars are not so far from that. ;)


As a remedy for the dark side, they grey looks good.

The blue - whilst it has a faint resemblance to the current colors - somehow reminds me of the color you might find on eastern chinaware. Would go nice with a dragon.

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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2024, 03:33:03 am »
And no need to say sorry that was the way you felt, which is fine by me.
Just wanted to make sure that it was "my impression". Rather than a professional review.
Understood and no worries.

Ostentatious would be a little extreme.
Pompous? But that is similar.
Seriously? Do I come across as being pompous? I try to be respectful and humble. Curtsey of chatGPT --> POMPOUS: Pretentious Obsession with Magnifying Perceived Ostentatious Unsupported Self-importance ( I thought that was funny )

The thing is when I looked at it, I thought its like trumpets in the background: "Here comes the emperor himself, kowtow now". :)
LOL! Then I must have done something right if that was your impression. Please have a look at this is something I am working on. Do turn up the sound and view it on fullscreen. Viewing it on youtube and actually compiling and running it on your laptop/desktop or preffered device are two very different experiences.

Soo...the files are a wee bit too large to post on the forum. Where can I store the code and resources online so anyone interested can download and compile and say "Hell, you can do that in Lazarus?" and have a careful look at the form title/caption ( I just could not resist )
And well,...
1) That may be the idea (I don't know) to show off the greatness of Lazarus.
2) Greek pillars are not so far from that. ;)
Yes it was done to hopefully make folks realize what is possible with the Lazarus IDE and free pascal. When you reach my age showing off or impressing others are no longer matters of interest to me. What is of interest to me is to get over this learning curve as fast as I can then hopefully start contributing to improve Lazarus ( if that can be done as it is something else already in my limited opinion) It may come across as trying to show off, in reality it is just a old geezer with a very broad spectrum of skill-sets trying to take Lazarus for a test drive. And what is wrong with that? It helps to engage people and fast. Try showing newcomers any example program then show them one that after seeing they will want to recreate the experience for themselves.


As a remedy for the dark side, they grey looks good.
So you can be reasonable  :)

The blue - whilst it has a faint resemblance to the current colors - somehow reminds me of the color you might find on eastern chinaware. Would go nice with a dragon.
Dragons will be summoned for the next version of my silly demo.
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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2024, 09:16:18 am »
And I might add that if you are capable to build Lazarus from source this is very, very easy.
HI @Thaddy I am not sure I understand what is very, very easy?  :-\
Take your image, delete the old one and rename your image to the old one's name...
Rebuild Lazarus...That is all.
If you do it like that you don't even have to touch the sourcecode.
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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2024, 10:14:34 am »
Makes it look like a programming language for Elizabethans, little old ladies with black dresses and lace collars, and mid-C20th types who insisted on lace doilies on the table and could afford the extra punched cards to store foibles like that. Sorry.

Also I'd echo what's been said about rebuilding, and would suggest that working out how to do this before volunteering changes is always a good idea.

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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2024, 06:00:57 pm »
The current Lazarus "About" dialog is OK (i.e. it doesn't need any changes, there's no need to make any changes). But there could be some minor improvements & beautifications in the "New..." dialog. But it's not a pressing need. Besides, it would have to be both tasteful and ergonomic.

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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2024, 06:06:53 pm »
The graphic attachment from "Reply #4" resembles the style of an obituary, where the empty black center is a place to enter the personal data of the deceased.

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Re: The 'About Lazarus' Form
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2024, 08:17:02 pm »
But there could be some minor improvements & beautifications in the "New..." dialog.

Such as?
Preview Lazarus 3.99 documentation at: https://dsiders.gitlab.io/lazdocsnext

 

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