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The DOS look for Lazarus - instructions and a bonus wish

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MarkMLl:
OP (machinetched): for a new user to post an unexplained link to some other arbitrary site is considered very bad form in most contexts, and is likely to get both you and this entire thread deleted as a spammer.

However I do agree with your point, and together with a number of other people scattered around the programming community feel that today's emphasis on "pastel shades" and attempts at bit-precision in development environments detracts from the "user experience" particularly for those of us with ageing eyesight. Slapping on a "dark theme" isn't much of a fix if the underlying visual design is poor.

It is fashionable to mention early versions of Turbo Pascal, the later DOS-based TopSpeed environment, Visual BASIC for MS-DOS plus of course general-purpose tools like MultiEdit. But predating all of those was the Point editor ** from Logitech, which they both bundled with their compilers and used to demonstrate the potential of the newly-invented "mouse".

However I'd go slightly further, and suggest that the unix ecosystem has suffered from never having had a decent text-based form builder and associated development environment- or at least an accessible one since I think that Empress etc. filled that niche but was expensive.

However that boat has well and truly sailed now that GUI-based programming has replaced Curses etc., and most data entry and query operations are done via "the web" with programmers content to pull code from arbitrary repositories on the assumption that it will work. Obligatory xkcd https://xkcd.com/2347/

I'd add that a problem with all TUI-style IDEs is that textmode sessions in Windows, OS/2 and (as far as I can tell) the rest don't have an equivalent to unix's WINCH (window-changed) signal, so the code running in them doesn't know that it's got to resize its presentation (i.e. window placement, overall screen outline if used, and so on).

** https://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Point

MarkMLl

marcov:
(actually during some time before the own IDE became valuable, FPC was debugged with RHIDE a TUI that was multi platform)

Martin_fr:

--- Quote from: machinetched on January 19, 2024, 01:47:18 pm ---I presented my case in what I felt was personally adequate, however brash it may seem from the lookout tower that moderation has to climb down from.
--- End quote ---

Actually, no moderator made a remark about your post being a potential issue. Others just assumed.

Of course, I (and probably other moderators too) looked. But the post, including the video were on topic. So no complains.
And well yes, of course, despite wanting to extend our full trust to everyone, we must evaluate if someone might be a hidden spammer or not. Links can be an indication depending on content and other factors, but the important part is "and other factors".

And btw, welcome to the forum.

machinetched:

--- Quote from: Martin_fr on January 19, 2024, 03:04:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: machinetched on January 19, 2024, 01:47:18 pm ---I presented my case in what I felt was personally adequate, however brash it may seem from the lookout tower that moderation has to climb down from.
--- End quote ---

Actually, no moderator made a remark about your post being a potential issue. Others just assumed.

Of course, I (and probably other moderators too) looked. But the post, including the video were on topic. So no complains.
And well yes, of course, despite wanting to extend our full trust to everyone, we must evaluate if someone might be a hidden spammer or not. Links can be an indication depending on content and other factors, but the important part is "and other factors".

And btw, welcome to the forum.

--- End quote ---

Thanks, very kind of you, Martin_fr.

I appreciate the network of personalities that have gathered here around my topic. It shows the various ways we can agree, disagree, or agree to disagree on things in civilized manners, where often, only the world-wide-web can hope to provide us with such tools.

BeniBela:
This is just a color scheme?

From the title, I thought someone made a Lazarus for DOS.

I used to use Visual Basic for DOS:  https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/eb/Vbdos_form.png

You can use ASCII to draw the components in DOS

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