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paweld

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Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« on: February 17, 2023, 07:32:50 am »
Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus was posted on blaisepascalmagazine.eu - link to the publication: https://www.blaisepascalmagazine.eu/roadmap-for-fpc-and-lazarus/
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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2023, 07:45:58 am »
My fist question is -> why is this information not posted first on the pages of the foundation https://foundation.freepascal.org/  or the wiki pages https://www.freepascal.org/future.html ?

Must we read such a information in a paid magazine ? Did the magazine give the roadmap for the developers ? Or is it a sponsor an say you have to follow the path.

Sorry, i did not understand the policity.
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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2023, 08:26:34 am »
Yes good question af.  It seem to be mainly about Lazarus and a pretty motley list IMHO. 

From a Policy point of view, a very worrying approach. When an organisation looses its way, first thing it forgets are just who is important to them.

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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2023, 09:16:25 am »
It's new for me too. I assume it is the foundation's roadmap, not the projects themselves.

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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2023, 10:05:31 am »
It's new for me too. I assume it is the foundation's roadmap, not the projects themselves.
But nothing to see on the foundations page. I have checked this before i made my post
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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2023, 11:36:53 am »
It's new for me too. I assume it is the foundation's roadmap, not the projects themselves.
But nothing to see on the foundations page. I have checked this before i made my post
It seems like group of 2 or 3 pascal/lazarus developers come together made roadmap for themself. They already working to achieve the goal.

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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2023, 11:52:13 am »
It's new for me too. I assume it is the foundation's roadmap, not the projects themselves.
But nothing to see on the foundations page. I have checked this before i made my post

This is a bit ironic, since Detlef is both the editor of the Blaise Pascal Magizine and also the chairman of the Foundation.


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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2023, 12:11:12 pm »
Its simple I am working on it. I cant do everything at once.

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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2023, 01:44:14 pm »
Other than that, what do you think of this roadmap? Fresnel seems to be quite an important and nice news (and a better debugger, too) for the FPC/Lazarus world. The rest seems a bit meh to me. You think?

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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2023, 01:52:18 pm »
Other than that, what do you think of this roadmap? Fresnel seems to be quite an important and nice news (and a better debugger, too) for the FPC/Lazarus world. The rest seems a bit meh to me. You think?

Agreed. Fresnel does seem to be the most important.

As far as the rest, yeah, I agree with you.

As Marcov pointed out, this is the Foundation's roadmap, not the roadmap of the FPC/Lazarus projects.

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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2023, 02:12:49 pm »
The problem with Fresnel is that you get drawing freedom but on top of LCL with native widgetsets ?  That doesn't make entire sense IMHO.

Also it is very massive, how quick can it be usable?

IMHO the debugger is the only FPC/Lazarus project, the rest are 3rd party addons.

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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2023, 02:22:04 pm »
@af0815: also I didn't find this information on the foundation's website, so I decided to post a link.
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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2023, 04:23:00 pm »
IMHO the debugger is the only FPC/Lazarus project, the rest are 3rd party addons.
But is presented like an "official" roadmap without any synchonisation with the foundation. Or is the foundation a dead horse ? Because 3rd party addons should presented as 3rd party roadmap and not as a roadmap for fpc & lazarus 16/2/2023.

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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2023, 04:29:21 pm »
IMHO the debugger is the only FPC/Lazarus project, the rest are 3rd party addons.
But is presented like an "official" roadmap without any synchonisation with the foundation. Or is the foundation a dead horse ? Because 3rd party addons should presented as 3rd party roadmap and not as a roadmap for fpc & lazarus 16/2/2023.

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I know and agree. But I don't have much hope as the whole pas2js has also been pushed under the FPC umbrella, despite being only sideways related.

Most of these seem to be selected in the hope of attracting anonymous masses rather than improve life for the people actually using the project's fruits.
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Re: Roadmap for FPC and Lazarus (2023)
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2023, 04:50:23 pm »
Nobody mentioned such roadmap on devel mailing list, also this is first time I heard about Fresnel, whatever it is.

 

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