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Bogen85:
--- Quote from: dftxland on January 20, 2023, 08:07:08 pm ---As I pointed out in the above messages, I used pascal years ago and was interested in relearning it using the fpc compiler. I thought that #fpc was yet another place that I could observe and learn.
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As was the same for me a few years back.
--- Quote from: dftxland on January 20, 2023, 08:07:08 pm --- Given the above conversation, I learned that would not be happening. I've hung out in many other IRC channels and learned things without having to be an active conversationalist.
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Same here. I've hung out many IRC channels for a long time in the past learning things, but rarely saying things.
--- Quote from: dftxland on January 20, 2023, 08:07:08 pm ---I hear that there is an active discord channel for pascal and fpc, so I may hang out there.
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There is, and it is a very warm, friendly, and helpful place for pascal, FPC, and Lazarus help and general chat about those subjects, Delphi included.
--- Quote from: dftxland on January 20, 2023, 08:07:08 pm ---If you decide to join these channels on libera.chat be forewarned that you may be kicked and banned from the channel for doing nothing wrong. On the forums, I see that fpc_op has posted many times about getting people to use irc which has gotten several people annoyed. It is very ironic that fpc_op promotes irc in the forums and proceeds to ban people for no good reason. I will not be recommending anyone use liber.chat irc for fpc and lazarous.
Thanks for reading and happy coding.
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Thanks for coming forward to warn about the current state of the pascal related IRC on Libera.
What you are saying needs to be heard and taken seriously for any wanting to promote positive friendly communication models for Pascal, especially for Free Pascal and Lazarus, especially for those who want to use IRC.
KodeZwerg:
--- Quote from: dftxland on January 20, 2023, 08:07:08 pm ---Jan 14 17:21:41 <fpc_op> How would I display every other letter in English alphabet using pascal?
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I would need over one hour to understand what that question mean lol
"every other letter" wtf... makes in my language as much sense as trying to teach a fish to speak.
Anyway, welcome D, here you not need to quiz anything after registration :D ...even there I felt like I am absolute stupido %) since that registration quiz wanted strange stuff from me lol
...times can be hard when mother-language ain't english :-*
Kays:
--- Quote from: dftxland on January 20, 2023, 08:07:08 pm ---[…] On Saturday, I got banned from #fpc because I was simply hanging out. NOTE: I have never sent any rude or disparaging messages. […]
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That’s ridiculous. It’s common netiquette to first observe a forum, learn the customs, before participating actively. Nothing wrong with that.
--- Quote from: GetMem on January 20, 2023, 10:09:35 pm ---The correct answer:
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Too complicated.
--- Code: Pascal [+][-]window.onload = function(){var x1 = document.getElementById("main_content_section"); if (x1) { var x = document.getElementsByClassName("geshi");for (var i = 0; i < x.length; i++) { x[i].style.maxHeight='none'; x[i].style.height = Math.min(x[i].clientHeight+15,306)+'px'; x[i].style.resize = "vertical";}};} ---program everyOtherLetterOfAlphabet(output);begin writeLn('BDFHJLNPRTVXZ')end.
--- Quote from: KodeZwerg on January 20, 2023, 11:04:22 pm ---[…] here you not need to quiz anything after registration […] ..even there I felt like I am absolute stupido […] since that registration quiz wanted strange stuff from me lol
...times can be hard when mother-language ain't english
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I agree. The verification procedure is ludicrously difficult. Beside the standard decipher-letters-captcha I get, for example
* In the proverb, what does the pot call the kettle? (Hint: Answer is a color):
* Who travels in a tardis? The ______ (6 letters):
* One .... to rule them all?:I seriously do not know any answer. No wonder Pascal users are in decline; if it’s too difficult to join the forum.
Bogen85:
--- Quote from: Kays on January 20, 2023, 11:05:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: KodeZwerg on January 20, 2023, 11:04:22 pm ---[…] here you not need to quiz anything after registration […] ..even there I felt like I am absolute stupido […] since that registration quiz wanted strange stuff from me lol
...times can be hard when mother-language ain't english
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I agree. The verification procedure is ludicrously difficult.
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Difficulty aside, it in and of itself is insanely ludicrous, and it is very insulting to experienced programmers who have used pascal in the past.
Being forced to answer questions like those just to hang out in an IRC channel is demeaning.
No experienced programmer, especially ones were a greater breadth of programming knowledge than the quizzer, should have to forced to put up with such nonsense, just to hang out and observe and maybe even eventually actually participate actively in an IRC channel.
dbannon:
--- Quote from: Kays on January 20, 2023, 11:05:40 pm ---.....
I agree. The verification procedure is ludicrously difficult. Beside the standard decipher-letters-captcha I get, for example
* In the proverb, what does the pot call the kettle? (Hint: Answer is a color):
* Who travels in a tardis? The ______ (6 letters):
* One .... to rule them all?:I seriously do not know any answer. No wonder Pascal users are in decline; if it’s too difficult to join the forum.
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Wow, are you saying they are questions used when joining this forum ? While I can answer them, I would say they are very culture specific and that is a bad thing IMHO. I guess its getting harder and harder to tell the difference between people and bots. Harder Pascal specific questions would not be acceptable because we want to encourage new comers, so, just what test should be applied ? Thats a serious question.
And I vote for Getmem's answer for the IRC question !
--- Quote ---every other letter in English alphabet
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What a rubbish question, sloppy wording like that is not worthy of a Pascal programmer.
Davo
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