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What's your age bracket ?

10 to 19
3 (2.3%)
20 to 29
5 (3.9%)
30 to 39
18 (14%)
40 to 49
33 (25.6%)
50-59
44 (34.1%)
60-69
23 (17.8%)
70-79
2 (1.6%)
80-89
1 (0.8%)
90-99
0 (0%)
100+
0 (0%)

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Author Topic: Who are the Pascal lovers ?  (Read 9383 times)

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Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« on: November 19, 2022, 12:03:39 pm »
Hello,

There is an apparently common belief that Pascal programmers are mostly "old timers" but, that doesn't seem to be supported by available cold hard facts.  This poll is an attempt to get a few cold hard facts, hopefully enough to draw a conclusion.

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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2022, 12:50:11 pm »
  • 50 to 50 ?
  • 50+ ?

Fix it please!
Also I'm curious for the elder groups.
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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2022, 01:25:09 pm »
10-19
20-29
30-39
40-49
50-59
60+
Writing code in an overly complex way is usually merely a complete misunderstanding of the goal you are trying to achieve.

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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2022, 01:27:26 pm »
I fixed it and enabled vote changing as a result :)

While I program in Pascal, I also program in C, JAL, GCB and even Cobol along with script languages such as Bourne shell, JavaScript, DCL and Perl. Pascal is my preference for Windows GUI programs and any GUI program that needs to be x-platform, otherwise I generally choose C or a scripting language.
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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2022, 01:59:04 pm »
@trev... thank you for fixing it. 

I wasn't quite awake <chuckle>
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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2022, 02:12:06 pm »
With a 30 to 49 in the middle, the result graph will be grossly misleading. That bar in the graph shows the sum of to 10 year slices....

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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2022, 02:17:49 pm »
“the only statistics you can trust are the ones you have falsified yourself” - Winston Churchill.

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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2022, 02:38:20 pm »
With a 30 to 49 in the middle, the result graph will be grossly misleading.
Yes, that's definitely a bit of a problem ... particularly in that range. 
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440bx

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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2022, 06:56:03 pm »
The range 30 to 49 really subtracts from clarity.

if the moderators are amenable, I'd like this thread to be deleted and the poll re-done with "better" ranges.  IOW, 30 to 39 and 40 to 49.

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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2022, 09:52:34 pm »
[…] get a few cold hard facts […]
As far as users have stored their birthday with their user profiles, you can see their birthdays in the calendar. To be fair, out of privacy considerations I entered an arbitrary ±5% precise b-day date. Also this approach is obviously flawed, as is this poll: You’re limiting yourself to forum participants, but there are many more users out there.

[…] I'd like this thread to be deleted and the poll re-done with "better" ranges. […]
Can’t you edit your opening post and check the “reset vote count” box? Maybe the subject could be more descriptive, because “Pascal lovers” has a bit of a suggestive undertone, no?
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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2022, 10:55:06 pm »
10-19
20-29
30-39
40-49
50-59
60+

Can this change be made? Not that it matters, but I'm not planning to vote otherwise.
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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2022, 11:09:08 pm »

60+ range is not good either.
It puts all old crocks under a single umbrella, and unlike the 30 to 49 error in range,  this gives a 60 to >100 massive range.
And from what I see, there are many people over 60 here, so, at 74, I speak on their behalf and mine.





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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2022, 11:26:35 pm »

60+ range is not good either.
It puts all old crocks under a single umbrella, and unlike the 30 to 49 error in range,  this gives a 60 to >100 massive range.
And from what I see, there are many people over 60 here, so, at 74, I speak on their behalf and mine.

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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2022, 01:13:05 am »
I'm 33 but I use lazarus fpc since I was 19 or 20.

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Re: Who are the Pascal lovers ?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2022, 02:51:43 am »
An other issue with the poll is that there is no statistical data on how the likelihood of participation spread across age groups.

This also applies to the filling in of the D.O.B. fields in the profile. Never the less, I did pull the data that is available.

Totally not representative
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  1. Age in years    Count of user-accounts
  2.  0 <= x < 10     2
  3. 10 <= x < 20     4
  4. 20 <= x < 30    53
  5. 30 <= x < 40   160
  6. 40 <= x < 50   173
  7. 50 <= x < 60   128
  8. 60 <= x < 70   100
  9. 70 <= x <100    54    // NOTE: 30 years worth of data grouped
  10. 100<= x < ..     1

 

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