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Trying to contribute to the Wiki, Translations needed, and if yes, how to do?

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af0815:
For me one and only goal is - WITHOUT a tool for controling the changes AND the state of other languages in relation - any diskussion is meaningless.

my2cents

BTW: This dicussion is IMHO more than 10 Years old and popup from time to time (And it looks nobody search in the old diskussions on the mailinglist and the forums).

Kays:

--- Quote from: af0815 on January 28, 2022, 10:13:26 am ---For me one and only goal is - WITHOUT a tool for controling the changes AND the state of other languages in relation - any diskussion is meaningless. […] This dicussion is IMHO more than 10 Years old and popup from time to time (And it looks nobody search in the old diskussions on the mailinglist and the forums).
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Well, to quote some old post:
--- Quote from: marcov on March 21, 2013, 02:03:27 pm ---More tiredness of the same old discussions. It is always the tools, and always the public write access, and never anything else.  And always if you change it "they will come", IOW heaps of good quality content will fall from thin air, while no sane person could have done without

All experiments in the past however point to the exact opposite, and pointing that out is deemed old-fashioned and negative.  Moreover, the division line is usually between actual contributors and wannabe contributors.
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Tools should simplify things: A dishwasher is nice to have, but if you can’t wash the dishes by hand, you’re just pathetic.

Thaddy:

--- Quote from: Kays on January 30, 2022, 04:35:01 am ---Tools should simplify things: A dishwasher is nice to have, but if you can’t wash the dishes by hand, you’re just pathetic.

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A dishwasher is plain superfluous as long as your wife insists that you need to rinse everything - essentially cleaning up by hand -  before it goes in the dishwasher......
The solution is to clean the filter after each run. (And yes, she turned 54 yesterday and still adheres to such folly)

Plz don't mention dishwashers.... :-X :-[ especially in the aftermath of a birthday party. O:-)

Nimral:
I can't resist.

My wife does also put everything into the dishwasher, no matter what sticks to it: salad leaves, sauces, crusts of burnt food, fruit skin, whatever. Usually really thick stuff does not dissolve, but either stick to the dishes or assemble in the botton somewhere around the sieves above the pump sump.

After each wash she takes the mess out (or asks me to do so), and removes the sieves to rinse them, and that is when, occasionally, seeds from melons and other debris fall into the pump sump. From there they are sucked into the pump and damage the pump wheel. I had all kinds of things in the pump, from half rotten noodles to stainless steel  screws with everything you may think of in between.

Pulling the dishwasher out of the kitchen block and changing the pump takes me around an hour of work, a replacement pump costs around 50 Euros, I think of buying a 10-pack to get a discount.

If your wife asks you to rinse the dishes (at least the ones which have "attachments") ... do so, it makes perfect sense.

Nimral:

--- Quote from: af0815 on January 28, 2022, 10:13:26 am ---For me one and only goal is - WITHOUT a tool for controling the changes AND the state of other languages in relation - any diskussion is meaningless.

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"Any" is always such an absolute term. Sorry if I bug you once more, I have already done so in other threads, but I think your approach is only one of many, and it is the most labour intensive one, and would, btw, require the wiki servers migrated to a newer version of the Mediawiki.

Now there is no harm in doing things "right", even if it labour intensive, but to me missing time is one of the problems why the wiki is partially in such a bad shape, preserving time should therefore be the top priority, and I would be willing to sacrifice 100% grammatical correctness, as long as the translation errors are tolerable and not at all misleading.

I do also not see any reasons what multiple methods should not peacefully coexist: the tool-based approach if there is an author capable and willing to do it at hand, and the automated approach if there isn't.

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