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dW2005

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ftp.freepascal.org inaccessible?
« on: September 21, 2021, 05:26:15 pm »
Hello, don't know if its only me, but can't access the FTP for last 24 hours or so (trying to build fpc+lazarus on fresh raspbian install, but fpcupdeluxe fails to fetch the bootstrap compiler)

trace looks like this:

Host: ftp.freepascal.org [193.224.143.39]

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms     *     192.168.100.1
  2     7 ms     9 ms     3 ms  mm-128-167-124-178.static.mgts.by [178.124.167.128]
  3     5 ms     3 ms     3 ms  mm-53-80-84-93.dynamic.pppoe.mgts.by [93.84.80.53]
  4     8 ms     6 ms     7 ms  core2.net.belpak.by [93.85.80.57]
  5     3 ms     7 ms     7 ms  ie2.net.belpak.by [93.85.80.54]
  6     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  asbr8.net.belpak.by [93.85.80.126]
  7    14 ms    14 ms    14 ms  war-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.47.110]
  8    50 ms    49 ms    49 ms  ffm-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net [213.155.134.212]
  9    44 ms    43 ms    43 ms  win-bb4-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.138.23]
 10    48 ms    47 ms    47 ms  bpt-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.119.43]
 11    39 ms    40 ms    40 ms  geant-ic326863-bpt-b2.ip.twelve99-cust.net [80.239.135.139]
 12    51 ms    51 ms    51 ms  hungarnet-ias-hungarnet-gw.bud.hu.geant.net [83.97.88.82]
 13    52 ms    52 ms    52 ms  hge0-0-0-0.core2.vh.hbone.hu [195.111.100.80]
 14    54 ms    54 ms    54 ms  hge0-0-0-0.rtr.sopron.hbone.hu [195.111.111.61]
 15    52 ms    52 ms    52 ms  eth1-1.rtr.szombathely.hbone.hu [195.111.111.143]
 16     *        *        *    <<  timeout, repeats to no avail.

ccrause

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Re: ftp.freepascal.org inaccessible?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2021, 05:57:14 pm »
The ftp link does appear dead on my side too.  There were issues with maintaining the old infrastructure, perhaps the ftp service was shut down with the old svn service.

Is there not another download option such as Sourceforge fpcupdeluxe?  Also, are you using the latest fpcupdeluxe version?  If any of the old links are not available anymore I'm sure Alfred would have updated fpcupdeluxe.

dW2005

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Re: ftp.freepascal.org inaccessible?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2021, 08:42:46 pm »
It surely can wait, of course. Just had to make sure it's not at my end, internet censorship in my country is kinda lame, they sometimes do weird blockings for no apparent reasons.

ccrause

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Re: ftp.freepascal.org inaccessible?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2021, 10:01:45 pm »
There are also online sites that can do a lookup on your behalf (so you can check if an address is visible from another point of view).  One example is https://ping.eu/

MarkMLl

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Re: ftp.freepascal.org inaccessible?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2021, 10:55:12 pm »
It surely can wait, of course. Just had to make sure it's not at my end, internet censorship in my country is kinda lame, they sometimes do weird blockings for no apparent reasons.

As a general point there's also the issue of FTP support being dropped by various browsers. There's the obvious possibility that if this is actually being done in a library, then it will have a knock-on effect if something else tries to be "clever" and invoke a facility that no longer works... this would hardly be the first time that a developer assumes that because an API is open-source it must be stable.

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Gustavo 'Gus' Carreno

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Re: ftp.freepascal.org inaccessible?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2021, 11:26:18 pm »
Hey MarkMLI,

As a general point there's also the issue of FTP support being dropped by various browsers. There's the obvious possibility that if this is actually being done in a library, then it will have a knock-on effect if something else tries to be "clever" and invoke a facility that no longer works... this would hardly be the first time that a developer assumes that because an API is open-source it must be stable.

That is actually quite true, most browsers have dropped FTP support, but I tried it with Filezilla and had no joy also :(

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PascalDragon

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Re: ftp.freepascal.org inaccessible?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2021, 09:09:24 am »
Hello, don't know if its only me, but can't access the FTP for last 24 hours or so (trying to build fpc+lazarus on fresh raspbian install, but fpcupdeluxe fails to fetch the bootstrap compiler)

Until we've solved the issue you can also try to use the mirror at ftp://mirror.freemirror.org/ (the directory structure is the same).

As a general point there's also the issue of FTP support being dropped by various browsers.

Browsers dropping FTP support is irrelevant for us still providing FTP, because for many older targets (e.g. Amiga) FTP is in fact the easier solution. The browsers dropping FTP support is however relevant for us also providing HTTP-based solutions.

dW2005

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Re: ftp.freepascal.org inaccessible?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2021, 01:24:02 pm »
The problem sort of solved itself, as today i tried to run fpcup on windows, and after failing to get the files from ftp in question, it got them from other location. The thing that initially confused me was a long wait for it to sequentially fail to download all the versions from 3.2 downto 2.4 before looking elsewhere. While on windows it took about 15-20 minutes, on linux its a couple hours or so (maybe specific to socket timeouts), then the process continued normally.

 

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