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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2021, 01:25:35 pm »
ah, gitlab blocking some countries, Syria one of ot because it is based on google services.

https://twitter.com/compumaster/status/1029164513856110593

https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2018/07/19/gcp-move-update/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

And that's why I am in favour of self-hosting.

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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2021, 01:31:52 pm »
ah, gitlab blocking some countries, Syria one of ot because it is based on google services.

https://twitter.com/compumaster/status/1029164513856110593

https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2018/07/19/gcp-move-update/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

IMHO, (maybe I am wrong) the plan of fpc+lazarus is to use the source of gitlab site but keep the data on their own server, not the server of Gitlab.inc.
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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #92 on: July 08, 2021, 01:34:02 pm »
Yes and no, originally the plan was a own hosted gitlab instance, now the plan is move to the gitlab cloud.


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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #93 on: July 08, 2021, 01:37:55 pm »
Yes and no, originally the plan was a own hosted gitlab instance, now the plan is move to the gitlab cloud.

Ha, ok. (but it would be good to keep the idea to host git data on your own server when all is working ok with gitlab cloud).
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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #94 on: July 08, 2021, 01:43:07 pm »
And that's why I am in favour of self-hosting.

I echo that sentiment. But jurisdiction is a problem which is not going away, and I suspect will only get more complex as collaborative projects get increasing attention.

The sort of thing that worries me is that if a developer in the UK contributed to a project on a server which he knew was mirrored in a jurisdiction which had no scruples serving content to (insert blacklisted country here), the security services would eventually come knocking on his door.

I'm not aware of that having happened yet. I am aware of a claim that somebody was treated very harshly after sending money to the family of his web developer who was killed by USA-allied fire in the Balkans.

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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #95 on: July 08, 2021, 01:47:17 pm »
I am aware of a claim that somebody was treated very harshly after sending money to the family of his web developer who was killed by USA-allied fire in the Balkans.
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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #96 on: July 08, 2021, 02:06:43 pm »
The data will be kept on gitlab.

But mirrors can be added. (IIRC gitlab can even push updates to mirrors).

So a github (read only) mirror is likely.
Other mirrors (including self hosted) can be done, but I am not sure what the immediate plans are.

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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #97 on: July 08, 2021, 02:12:06 pm »
for me as developer I can access gitlab using vpn (until now),
the most important is download binaries, if you can put mirror on github, or any site that not censoring it, it is good idea, it is for normal developers in sanction countries.

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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2021, 07:22:42 am »
for me as developer I can access gitlab using vpn (until now),
the most important is download binaries, if you can put mirror on github, or any site that not censoring it, it is good idea, it is for normal developers in sanction countries.

Binaries will still be hosted by us directly or on SourceForge. We currently have no plans to change that.

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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #99 on: July 17, 2021, 11:24:14 pm »
There seems to be a problem with the IDs in recent bugtracker conversion. I only see @1234567 for the users who provided their ID in number form (including me). Will this be fixed? The other users who chose their user name seem to be working.

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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #100 on: July 17, 2021, 11:53:59 pm »
Do you have a link to an example please?

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found, forwarded to relevant person
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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2021, 05:44:50 am »
The date for the final conversion has been established as the weekend of 17/18 july.

Not in anyway pushing, just curious. Is the any progress ?

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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #102 on: July 20, 2021, 09:39:56 am »
We moved it one week.

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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #103 on: July 24, 2021, 02:44:11 pm »
And that's why I am in favour of self-hosting.

I echo that sentiment.

It is simply a matter of time: most of us prefer developing instead of doing system administration. Most system administration of FPC is done by the main code contributors, so this narrows it down that we go for external hosting now. Not to mention the fact that running a self-hosted server securely becomes more and more difficult during the last years not only technically but also legally, e.g. considering the GDPR.

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Re: FPC & Lazarus moving to gitlab
« Reply #104 on: July 24, 2021, 03:12:38 pm »
Noting that Mantis has gone, but I'm disappointed that it wasn't at least temporarily replaced by a redirect or at least a sensible message.

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