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GAN

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The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« on: May 15, 2020, 08:33:47 am »
Congratulations, what's next? It was an excellent page. For my part I leave the wiki.
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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2020, 09:04:57 am »
You are aware that the person who designed that Alternative Main Page also redesigned the real Main Page to be more usable (with input from the core devs of both FPC and Lazarus) thus that alternative was no longer required?

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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2020, 10:34:34 pm »
No, because I do not see to Chronos.
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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2020, 10:36:47 pm »
History Alternative Main Page
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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2020, 10:49:11 pm »
We were honestly not aware that anyone was using it, except for alternative of the old main page. (Which is what the title implied).
So when the main page was updated, the alternative page was removed.

I can still get the content from the deletion log. (as admin).

I do not think, it should still be called "alternative main". (My opinion...)
But it could be restored under some other title.

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I do not know how much of the content in there is covered by current Portals. Such as Databases, or Debugging

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I have temporary restored it in its current place.
https://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Alternative_Main_Page

As indicated, "Alternative main page" is no longer a title that should be used for it. IMHO
Also, lots of works was invested into portals. So maybe a good idea to check for duplicates here. (and link to the portals were appropriate)

A new page could then be created, under an appropriate link. I can't currently think of anything real good, other than "Introduction Link Collection" or similar.

Please let me know, if you want to take care of it. Then I will leave the page until you can finish it. After that it can be deleted from its current spot again.

I hope this is a helpful solution to everyone.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2020, 11:09:56 pm by Martin_fr »

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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2020, 11:06:18 pm »
You are aware that the person who designed that Alternative Main Page also redesigned the real Main Page to be more usable (with input from the core devs of both FPC and Lazarus) thus that alternative was no longer required?
There may have been several alternatives....
This one may be a different one.

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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2020, 12:50:11 am »
First of all, it's not Martin's fault. I was the one who deleted the "Alternative main page" after my design for the real main page was adopted and Martin moved it into place.  The new main page was discussed here, on the Wiki, and on the FPC/Lazarus devs mailing list.

I then deleted the page because it had not been seriously updated in years and appeared to be no longer necessary because the new main page covered more topics and was completely up to date.

I agree with Martin - if you wish to take up the maintenance of the "Alternative main page" then it needs a new name. If you don't wish to take up the maintenance of that page, then it should be consigned again to the dustbin of history.
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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2020, 03:37:10 pm »
It is a point of view. I have used the alternative main, because i need more a fast link page for fast hopping in the wiki. The new main page is not for fast hopping and ... here and here and here ... with unvisible Links is not comfortable for me. Always to look, what is behind a nondescriptive link is a no go for me.

If the alternate page goes in the dustbin, it is also ok for me. Pages comes and pages go, people come and peoples left, thats life.
Personal i set no link to the new main page, only for my interested pages and remove the 'alternativ main' from the top position in my browsers link manager. 

Maybe it can be hold with the title 'fastlinklist' and a banner 'please update' :-)
« Last Edit: May 16, 2020, 03:39:58 pm by af0815 »
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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2020, 04:36:45 pm »
... here and here and here ... with unvisible Links is not comfortable for me. Always to look, what is behind a nondescriptive link is a no go for me.
You mean the "app gallery" section?
True, that could be improved. IMHO the 3 links could go into a bullet point list.

There are other links embedded in the text, but they all looked quite clear to me. Correct me if you think otherwise.

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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2020, 04:49:24 pm »
- I restored the full history (for credits)
- moved it to https://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Quick_Links
- updated the intro Text
- Added the Portal gallery.

From there, I leave it to whatever will happen with it. (Its a good page, at least at first sight / if maintained)

I temporarily put a link (no auto forward) to the new Page on the old url.
However, please update your  links. The old url will eventually be removed again. (If I do not forget about it)

I hope the new location is suitable for everyone.

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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2020, 05:00:11 pm »
thank you, i think this will be a good way. Quick_Links is a very good decscribing name.

Thanks goes to trev too for the new main page.
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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2020, 02:10:22 am »
Too late to the party, I came up with "Site Map" for the page - of course, it would need some serious updating to actually qualify.
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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2020, 03:58:19 am »
- I restored the full history (for credits)
- moved it to https://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Quick_Links
- updated the intro Text
- Added the Portal gallery.

From there, I leave it to whatever will happen with it. (Its a good page, at least at first sight / if maintained)

I temporarily put a link (no auto forward) to the new Page on the old url.
However, please update your  links. The old url will eventually be removed again. (If I do not forget about it)

I hope the new location is suitable for everyone.

Thank you very much Martin_fr.
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Re: The "Alternative Main Page" page was removed.
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2020, 06:31:38 am »
I hope the new location is suitable for everyone.


More than suitable.  Thanks.
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