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Silly question
Thaddy:
If you know Java, If you know ppcjvm and its tools this is perfectly possible.
Just do not expect to be able to use a visual designer from the Pascal side.
ppcjvm is actually pretty powerful and there are tools to create the bindings.
Jonas made an excellent effort here.
Sometimes I think I am the only one actually using it......
I would recommend it to everyone on the forum with some basic Java knowledge.
giahung1997:
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--- Quote from: giahung1997 on June 07, 2019, 09:50:38 am --- .... Is it true if we have, for example, Java interop so we can have LCL-Swing, isn't all of the custom controls developed for Swing by third party could be immediately usable for us in addition to the standard LCL controls?
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It rarely works that way.
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So my idea is not only silly but will also not work. It should be that straight forward so people could just skip this thread and invest more on the existing bindings ;)
giahung1997:
--- Quote from: Thaddy on June 19, 2019, 04:22:26 pm ---If you know Java, If you know ppcjvm and its tools this is perfectly possible.
Just do not expect to be able to use a visual designer from the Pascal side.
ppcjvm is actually pretty powerful and there are tools to create the bindings.
Jonas made an excellent effort here.
Sometimes I think I am the only one actually using it......
I would recommend it to everyone on the forum with some basic Java knowledge.
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I don't know Java that much. Use it as a dumbed down C++ for online competition exercises (the easy to solve ones :P) I can. More advanced concept like Generic or Annotations I will stuck :)
Thaddy:
Java is not dumbed down C++ because C++ is impossible to dumb down....
(And I hold a Borland trainer certificate for C++.... See...)
C++ or FPC are very powerful in the right hands, never blame the language, blame the programmer.
Java prevents C++ programmers to make many obvious mistakes..... Pascal needs such a substitute language far less....If ever...
Think!
giahung1997:
--- Quote from: Thaddy on June 19, 2019, 06:40:54 pm ---Java is not dumbed down C++ because C++ is impossible to dumb down....
(And I hold a Borland trainer certificate for C++.... See...)
C++ or FPC are very powerful in the right hands, never blame the language, blame the programmer.
Java prevents C++ programmers to make many obvious mistakes..... Pascal needs such a substitute language far less....If ever...
Think!
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Oops. I didn't blame any language. I don't like Java because it had me write too much, too verbose, the same problem with Object Pascal. I use a scripting language with dynamic type and very short syntax to write my code. Then convert it to Java to upload to the online test site for them to check it. My algorithm sucks and slow but it usually just works. Of course my rank is low :)
I want to use Lazarus because of this community, who will guide me even the basic newbie level code. I lacked formal education of computer science so this will very helpful :)
Of course when I get the code working I will convert it back to my favorite scripting language. I only write serious code with the language I feel comfort with. If I care about performance I could just skip fpc and go straight to C++. Sometime, fpc compiled binary performance even lose to java, measured with unix time command ::)
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