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typo

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2013, 05:28:29 pm »
If you think about Lazarus name and logos as a brand image, you must agree that all this must be updated to match the fashion.

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2013, 06:06:39 pm »
This is my contribution to this discussion (attached).

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2013, 06:34:04 pm »
After reading the whole discussion, including a possible change of the name of the whole project that has been smuggled in by some persons, I think that it will be best to leave everything as it is. An outmoded design is better than most of the suggestions (with the only exception of Graeme's logos that are excellent).
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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2013, 08:05:15 pm »
If you think about Lazarus name and logos as a brand image, you must agree that all this must be updated to match the fashion.

typo, I am not sure if this is humor or if you are serious. In forum posts a hidden humor is often missed.

But no, we do not need to match the fashion!
Besides, it would be rather pathetic if a Pascal project tried to attract people by being as fashionable as possible.

There is one line missing from your latest contribution.
Instead on "Free Pascal Studio" it should be "Free Pascal Visual Studio".

typo

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2013, 08:38:07 pm »
Visual Studio has that wonderful purple color.

typo

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2013, 08:56:37 pm »
Brand graphics relate to identity and identification. Do you think that Lazarus should assume a barroque style?

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2013, 09:08:27 pm »
Brand graphics relate to identity and identification. Do you think that Lazarus should assume a barroque style?

Does it do that right now? Or does even the splash screen on its own do that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque

At the very best it *includes* a picture of a pillar that may be baroque. (I will not be the judge if indeed it is).
It also includes a picture of a cheetah, a paw and various text elements.

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And if it did: Why would that be a bad thing?

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2013, 09:26:23 pm »
Not bad at all, just curious.

See attached.

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2013, 09:43:40 pm »
Why trying to find a new font?

font is part of the identity.

So unless there was a really good reason, it should not be changed.

Actually that reason thing applies to more than the font....

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2013, 10:02:31 pm »
I agree.

If it is a symbol of something, maybe it should not be changed.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2013, 10:06:17 pm by typo »

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2013, 11:02:48 pm »
Hello everyone,

Firstly i am sorry for broken english...

I searched in google images other ide's screens and i realized lazarus showing with "The rising of Lazarus" very holy place ;) yet.

Actually i am glad the undocked ide style and another reality is most people impressing with visual designs also technical people too.

Some reseacher says a person impressing in 7 seconds at the first meeting.
Maybe this reseach true maybe not, i am not sure because i used commondore 64 firstly and i loved my sprites i can change them move them etc,
after i used standart xt pc 8086 to x86.. now we are using pc 64bit :) and makeuped (painted) NT ( nowdays we called win 7, win 8 etc )

Maybe we should use some big buttons, very rounded icons, impressive spash screen all this requests,needs right but lazarus is freeware software who will design this parts?

For example my avatar is drawn by me but microsoft's design is designed by a company and they paid a lot of money i think.

Who will pay for this works in lazarus community ?
After lazarus project is becomes a commercial project.

I hope lazarus project wont to a commercial product because all good innovations and good ideas are growing up in free minded people.

Thanks all of you

Best wishes.

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2013, 11:30:09 pm »
Not bad at all, just curious.

See attached.
Sorry, but the font is simply awful.
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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2013, 11:32:32 pm »
This is a baroque font.

Simply to say "this is ugly" does not seem very smart.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2013, 11:42:59 pm by typo »

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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2013, 11:48:18 pm »
This is a baroque font.

No, it is not baroque. It is at best a style that is by some people today regarded as baroque. Baroque is the form of Antiqua font that followed the Renaissance Antiqua. At typical example of baroque Antiqua is the New Baskerville font, see http://www.fontpalace.com/font-details/ITC+New+Baskerville+LT+Roman/ for an example.

By the way, the pillar that serves as a seat for the chetah is also not baroque. It is ionic style that was introduced by ancient greeks in the 6th century BC, see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionic_order.
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Re: Do you agree that Lazarus needs modern graphics?
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2013, 11:53:35 pm »
Your font is not baroque, this one is: http://www.fontsner.com/font/BaroqueTextJF-40575.html

Of course the ionic column ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionic_order ) comes from Delphi and it is OK for it. But is this OK for us?