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Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« on: October 26, 2012, 04:26:15 pm »
Is there a decent installer for linux that does not have a huge learning curve or cost a arm and a leg?
I wrote this nice app with Lazarus and I want to package it up, but trying to figure out how to deploy on Linux is taking more time than writing the app did.

Creating debian or RPM packages is a pain in the rear, sorry to say it, but it is.



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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 04:45:26 pm »

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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 05:54:46 pm »
That looks good for MSE apps on linux as they don't have deps other than a xserver.
Guess I will have to figure out the nasty debian and RPM mess :-(
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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 09:49:53 pm »
Strange section to post in (why not post in the Linux section) but well...

FYI: Bernd/prof7bit is working on a Debian installer package for Lazarus that lets you package up a project and create .deb files; it is easily adaptable to at least windows/inno setup and should be adaptable to rpm as well, I'd think.
When I looked at it, it was quite far along, but I don't know whether he has finished it.

He mentioned it on the Lazarus mailing list, if you want more info.

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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 11:30:43 pm »
Strange section to post in (why not post in the Linux section) but well...

Because I was hoping a third party company or what not had come up with something...guess not.
Anyway I have seen the Lazpackage thing and it does have promise, but it still has a lot of issues, for example it will not work if your
project path has spaces in the names, no support or documentation on how to create a menu entry for gnome or kde.

There is this: http://installbuilder.bitrock.com/  but holy wow is it expensive....
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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2012, 09:46:01 am »
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Inno_Setup#Inno_Setup_for_Linux.2FOSX.3F
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http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,14789.msg78576.html

If you don't want to write rpms or debs, you can write a shell script to install your program (e.g. install.sh) and package up the entire result in a .tar.gz.
Personnally, I would just follow one of the many tutorials for building debs and/or rpms... or more likely try to remove some bugs Bernd's work ;)
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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2012, 10:15:37 pm »
Here is my point of view:

Just make a great app. People will make the package for their distro if your app is good.
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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2012, 10:59:01 pm »
In my opinion, the best tool ever for installing on linux/Unix is still make ;) When not using native package management that is... It's quite pleasant to use if you're not fearful of the console.

I was quite pleasantly surprised however when I saw you can actually base an entire package management on make (e.g. ports and pkgsrc on BSD systems).

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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2012, 10:50:41 am »
http://openbuildservice.org/
(not tested by myself)

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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2012, 04:33:16 pm »
Thanks guys,
Coming from a Delphi/Windows world packaging for Linux is pretty foreign. When you are used to Inno setup which
is super easy and effective it can be pretty daunting.
My issue with most of these is they build from source, why can't I simply build a package from my already compiled exe file?
All my apps only have the exe and maybe a DLL or two. 

I guess I will just google around and see if I can find any decent walk through on how to create a binary only debian package.
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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2012, 11:47:37 pm »
install jammer is an option,  but it does not make RPM or DEB files
it is discontinued but still available
http://www.installjammer.com/

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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2012, 12:59:28 pm »
I guess I will just google around and see if I can find any decent walk through on how to create a binary only debian package.
Don't forget to run Lintian on the built deb package to make shure all requirements are met. IMHO, it's not the script that makes packaging difficult.
And if you try theo's recommendation about openbuildservice.org please report your experience.
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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2012, 12:31:53 am »
There are two very good installers for Linux - the Debian Package Manager and the RPM (nee  Red Hat) Package Manager. Like anything, including Lazarus, they do have a learning curve associated with them but compared with Windows Installer, they are easy...

It is important to be able to use them because if you are going to check dependencies on install and set all permissions correctly, etc, you need to use the package manager appropriate for your distribution (e.g. deb for Ubuntu, rpm for Fedora).

In practice both are really just extensions of GNU autotools (autoconf, make, etc) that build a project and install them into a virtual location and then package up the result into an archive that can be extracted and installed straight on to your target system.

Having used Installshield under Windows and the more powerful Wix before coming to debs and rpms, you wonder why MS made such a mountain out of installation. Once you understand what is going on, they really are easy to use.

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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2012, 12:46:25 am »
Maybe this works for you: http://code.google.com/p/laz-cross-setup-builder/

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Re: Is there a decent installer for Linux?
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 09:14:37 am »
What tonyw said.
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