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Beginners / Re: Do newbies get a good "1st time impression" of Lazarus ?
« Last post by mai on Today at 05:39:14 am »
In my experience, the most pain free installation option for Lazarus on any Linux is fpcupdeluxe

I've had problems with the Debian packages, and I wonder how they could ever work, considering that many aspects of Lazarus/FPC requires write access to units (package installation and IDE rebuild).

Fpcupdeluxe is a frontend for building Lazarus/FPC from source, and it is 'installed' in your home directory. I recommend that very warmly!
(And surprised that it hasn't become the default installation method on *nix)

more often than not, I got error with fpcupdeluxe

if you use all buttons available , most of them will produce huge FAIL !

that is why fpcupdeluxe is not the default installer. only under rare circumstances, fpcupdeluxe will actually work.

fpcupdeluxe sources are full of TODO notes saying that stuff is not working.

you are very lucky if u get anyting done with fpcupdeluxe.   thats why itz called  "de luxe" - the luxury of not breaking once in 100 times.
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Linux / Re: How to get the
« Last post by mai on Today at 05:20:43 am »
one way to find out is to look at the fpcUPdeluxe sources since those are sometimes working.
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Beginners / Re: Do newbies get a good "1st time impression" of Lazarus ?
« Last post by mai on Today at 05:12:47 am »
this thread is specifically about first impression of Laz,

meaning whether it breaks a lot or no.


I specifically openend a thread about the Makefile breaking, where that issue may or may not be solved :  http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,38629.msg262899/topicseen.html#new
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Beginners / Re: Do newbies get a good "1st time impression" of Lazarus ?
« Last post by RAW on Today at 04:41:11 am »
Quote
that kind of reaction is pretty typical for suckware. mind you, even the wares by "suckless software" actually sucks quite badly, their usability is next to zero.
Ah, ok, I see... In that case you should probably exchange your computer with a television. Believe me it's much easier to handle ... I guess one or two weeks and you understand the concept...

Or be more specific as @Handoko already mentioned...
It's hard to reply anything intelligent to "all crap", "isn't working", "suckware" and so on...
BTW: There is something called error messages... I heard these messages are very helpful from time to time... maybe you can take a look at them...  :)
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Linux / How to get "make" working to build Laz from cvs sources
« Last post by mai on Today at 04:33:40 am »
I installed Laz with fpcUP-deluxe. Contrary to   http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Getting_Lazarus#Compiling_and_running_Lazarus

svn co https://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk lazarus

cd lazarus
make


of course breaks. For one, fpc and ppx64 must be manually copied into the an echo $PATH   subdir

but it still breaks, probably because of $PATH , files cannot be found.

fpcUPdeluxe manages to make Laz, but outside of that is it documented anywhere how to get going ? 

make help  does not go into such detail.


Code: Pascal  [Select]
  1.  
  2. make bigide
  3.  
  4. make -C packager/registration
  5. make[1]: Entering directory '/home/YOU/AA/cvs/lazarus/packager/registration'
  6. /bin/rm -f ../units/x86_64-linux/fcllaz.ppu
  7.  
  8. /home/YOU/Pfad/ppcx64 -MObjFPC -Scghi -O1 -g -gl -l -vewnhibq -Fu. -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/3.1.1/units/x86_64-linux/rtl -FE. -FU../units/x86_64-linux -Cg -dx86_64 fcllaz.pas
  9.  
  10. Free Pascal Compiler version 3.1.1-r37463 [2017/10/16] for x86_64
  11. Copyright (c) 1993-2017 by Florian Klaempfl and others
  12. (1002) Target OS: Linux for x86-64
  13.  
  14. (3104) Compiling fcllaz.pas
  15.  
  16. /home/YOU/AA/cvs/lazarus/packager/registration/fcllaz.pas(11,3)
  17.  
  18. Fatal: (10022) Can't find unit db used by fcllaz
  19. Fatal: (1018) Compilation aborted
  20.  
  21. Makefile:2785: recipe for target 'fcllaz.ppu' failed
  22.  
  23. make[1]: *** [fcllaz.ppu] Error 1
  24. make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rr/AA/cvs/lazarus/packager/registration'
  25.  
  26. Makefile:3141: recipe for target 'registration' failed
  27. make: *** [registration] Error 2
  28.  
  29.  
  30.  
  31.  
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Beginners / Re: Do newbies get a good "1st time impression" of Lazarus ?
« Last post by Handoko on Today at 04:19:43 am »
If you have problem with the installation or using Lazarus, just ask. People here are nice. You asked about our 1st time impression, so we gave you. Our first impressions may be different with yours, so I think no need to argue for it.

I personally never have problem installing or running Lazarus on Windows and Linux. First time I used Lazarus was long time ago. It had less features and less stable as now.

Remember if you have any problem using or installing Lazarus, just ask. Simply saying Lazarus is bad, you won't get any good responses. Because here is Lazarus/FPC forum. If you want to say how bad Lazarus is, please use other forums. But if you found problems or bug in Lazarus, we are likely to help you to solve it.
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General / Currency Symbol
« Last post by Deepaak on Today at 04:19:20 am »
How to print Indian Currency Symbol on Tlabel or insert it in a TComboBox.
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Beginners / Re: Do newbies get a good "1st time impression" of Lazarus ?
« Last post by mai on Today at 04:07:33 am »
@mai
If you've got some problems with LINUX or LAZARUS, then don't use it and the pain goes away immediately. LINUX isn't for everyone... The same applies to LAZARUS...  :P

Or search for someone who is able to and give him/her some bucks to do the job...  :D

that kind of reaction is pretty typical for suckware. mind you, even the wares by "suckless software" actually sucks quite badly, their usability is next to zero.
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Linux / Re: cvs update don't work
« Last post by mai on Today at 04:01:50 am »
make clean bigide


will then crash with error


I never expected anything else but this !  8)
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Beginners / Re: Do newbies get a good "1st time impression" of Lazarus ?
« Last post by RAW on Today at 03:22:36 am »
@mai
If you've got some problems with LINUX or LAZARUS, then don't use it and the pain goes away immediately. LINUX isn't for everyone... The same applies to LAZARUS...  :P

Or search for someone who is able to and give him/her some bucks to do the job...  :D
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