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www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« on: December 10, 2017, 06:47:04 am »
Spotted it few months ago and it seem never been accessible since then. I can access using mobile network, but not using home ISP, which i have two - MGTS and Beeline as a backup channel. Beeline 4G though works.

But the problem seem to lie way beyond Russia. It always ends on transip.net.


Using MGTS
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tracert lazarus.freepascal.org

Трассировка маршрута к www.lazarus-ide.org [37.97.187.115]
с максимальным числом прыжков 30:

  1    <1 мс    <1 мс    <1 мс  KEENETIC_GIGA [192.168.9.1]
  2    <1 мс    <1 мс    <1 мс  192.168.8.1
  3     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  gw.pppoe.spdop.ru [46.138.48.1]
  4     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  10.254.244.9
  5     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  mag9-cr01-be12.51.msk.stream-internet.net [212.188.1.5]
  6    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  oct-cr03-be1.78.spb.stream-internet.net [212.188.2.37]
  7    47 ms    46 ms    46 ms  kivi-cr01-ae8.78.hel.stream-internet.net [212.188.54.2]
  8    27 ms    27 ms    27 ms  bro-cr01-be7.135.stk.stream-internet.net [195.34.50.146]
  9    45 ms    45 ms    45 ms  tct-cr02-ae6.150.ams.stream-internet.net [212.188.28.105]
 10    45 ms    45 ms    48 ms  ae1.telecity2-ixr.openpeering.nl [80.249.209.197]
 11    46 ms    45 ms    45 ms  nikhef-cr.openpeering.nl [217.170.0.241]
 12    45 ms    45 ms    46 ms  openpeering.transip.nl [82.150.159.227]
 13    45 ms    45 ms    45 ms  e1-a8.r2.ams0.transip.net [157.97.168.5]
 14    67 ms    64 ms    65 ms  r2.s2.ams4.transip.net [77.72.151.127]
 15    57 ms    53 ms    54 ms  s2.l9.ams4.transip.net [77.72.151.77]
 16     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 17     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 18     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 19     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 20     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.


Using Beeline
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tracert lazarus.freepascal.org

Трассировка маршрута к www.lazarus-ide.org [37.97.187.115]
с максимальным числом прыжков 30:

  1    <1 мс    <1 мс    <1 мс  KEENETIC_GIGA [192.168.10.1]
  2    <1 мс    <1 мс    <1 мс  78.107.145.93
  3    <1 мс    <1 мс    <1 мс  ko-bng1-local.msk.corbina.net [85.21.0.175]
  4     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  10.2.254.128
  5    45 ms    47 ms    47 ms  ko-crs-be2.corbina.net [195.14.54.124]
  6    42 ms    45 ms    44 ms  kk12-crs1-be1.corbina.net [195.14.54.177]
  7    41 ms    41 ms    41 ms  ams-bb-ae1.corbina.net [78.107.184.100]
  8    41 ms    41 ms    41 ms  mx01.Amsterdam.gldn.net [62.105.135.92]
  9    42 ms    42 ms    42 ms  ae1.telecity2-ixr.openpeering.nl [80.249.209.197]
 10    43 ms    43 ms    42 ms  nikhef-cr.openpeering.nl [217.170.0.241]
 11    40 ms    39 ms    39 ms  openpeering.transip.nl [82.150.159.227]
 12    43 ms    43 ms    43 ms  e1-a8.r2.ams0.transip.net [157.97.168.5]
 13    57 ms    64 ms    63 ms  r2.s1.ams4.transip.net [77.72.151.125]
 14    55 ms    62 ms    49 ms  s1.l10.ams4.transip.net [77.72.151.19]
 15     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 16     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 17     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 18     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 19     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 20     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.


Using Beeline 4G
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tracert lazarus.freepascal.org

Трассировка маршрута к www.lazarus-ide.org [37.97.187.115]
с максимальным числом прыжков 30:

  1     7 ms   140 ms     2 ms  192.168.43.1
  2     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
  3   101 ms    22 ms    34 ms  10.10.30.37
  4     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
  5     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
  6    49 ms    34 ms    30 ms  10.10.30.125
  7    36 ms    27 ms    31 ms  10.10.31.58
  8    69 ms    26 ms    27 ms  62.105.150.250
  9    92 ms    71 ms    76 ms  mx01.Amsterdam.gldn.net [79.104.225.146]
 10    88 ms    69 ms    69 ms  ae1.telecity2-ixr.openpeering.nl [80.249.209.197]
 11    88 ms    74 ms    72 ms  nikhef-cr.openpeering.nl [217.170.0.241]
 12    89 ms    72 ms    67 ms  openpeering.transip.nl [82.150.159.227]
 13    92 ms    75 ms    64 ms  e1-a8.r2.ams0.transip.net [157.97.168.5]
 14   112 ms    76 ms    83 ms  r2.s2.ams4.transip.net [77.72.151.127]
 15   112 ms    67 ms    75 ms  s2.l9.ams4.transip.net [77.72.151.77]
 16    85 ms    66 ms    72 ms  server.lazarus-ide.org [37.97.187.115]
« Last Edit: December 10, 2017, 06:49:01 am by regs »

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2017, 07:10:07 am »
I've just tried, I have no problem accessing www.lazarus-ide.org. It seems for some reason your ISP blocks the domain/IP.

You can try to use Tor Project to access blocked websites:
https://www.torproject.org/

You can read more on this thread:
http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,39048.msg268350.html#msg268350

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2017, 01:40:58 pm »
The problem is not happening on a side of ISP. And those are two competitive operators You can see it's happening on the very last hop (transip.net).

I also tripple checked - neither lazarus-ide.org, lazarus.freepascal.org or 37.97.187.115 are in federal block list.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2017, 01:43:05 pm by regs »

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2017, 05:54:41 pm »
Note that this is not an isolated incident.
Also in NL there is a (business) service provider that for some reason blocks everything related to lazarus websites (forum, wiki etc.).
All posts based on: Win10 (Win64); Lazarus 1.8.0 'stable' (#56594 win64) unless specified otherwise...

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2017, 06:00:13 pm »
Note that this is not an isolated incident.
Also in NL there is a (business) service provider that for some reason blocks everything related to lazarus websites (forum, wiki etc.).

Which one? Because that is illegal in the Netherlands unless there is a court order in place (like the piratebay). Exception is: unless it is your employer or requested by your employer: an employer has the right to restrict access to websites at work.

There is one other possibility: if the website is hosted on a shared ip address, check out which other sites are hosted on that ip. It may be that one of these is blocked and subsequently all others too.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2017, 06:13:30 pm by Thaddy »
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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2017, 06:06:05 pm »
Which one? Because that is illegal in the Netherlands unless there is a court order in place (like the piratebay).
Isn't that illegal in whole of the European union because of net neutrality ? (edit: court orders excluded ofc).
« Last Edit: December 21, 2017, 06:10:19 pm by molly »

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2017, 06:14:44 pm »
Yes, unless it is your employer on on your employer's request, or the shared IP option I editted in. later.
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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2017, 06:39:48 pm »
Thanks Thaddy

Hmz, that is the first i've heard of it (obvious malicious sites might be blocked ofc). I would have to invest some time into that to have an opinion on that. At first glance that seems a slippery slope to me. For user eny i wonder what compelling reasons there might be in case it is indeed an employer responsible for the blocking.

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2017, 09:24:03 pm »
Still it's not blocked here. It's not in deferal list. And it doesn't work for me under two different operators. It it was blocked tracert would end on ISP firewall server.

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2017, 11:27:15 pm »
In my case a few weeks ago I can not navigate directly to this site, it is only possible through a proxy. My ISP blocks access to lazarus and I don't know the reason  >:D. Half a mile away from the house and in our office with another internet provider there is no problem.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2017, 11:37:58 pm by silvestre »

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2017, 01:57:03 am »
Earlier this year (2017) using Chrome 53 could not access sourceforge.net, looking for information on Google to this problem I found nothing, then I searched using Bing and found that there was a beautiful bug of Chrome 53 with the certificates of Symantec: https://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/update-chrome-53-bug-affecting-symantec-ssltls-certificates . With Firefox I could access SourceForge correctly.
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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2017, 03:08:30 am »
It is the other way around. *YOUR* IP is blocked.

Looking at the 1st and 3rd tracerts it seems that the host blocked your IP number, not the mobile IP.

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2018, 02:06:55 pm »
I have simillar problem, according my Internet provider it is not theirs problem, it is outside theirs network. They recommend me to contact freepascal.org domain administrator.

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  1.  
  2. C:\Users\cvrk>tracert www.lazarus-ide.org
  3.  
  4. Tracing route to www.lazarus-ide.org [37.97.187.115]
  5. over a maximum of 30 hops:
  6.  
  7.   1     4 ms     1 ms     1 ms  y858.home [192.168.1.1]
  8.   2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9.   3    62 ms    37 ms    39 ms  10.82.4.177
  10.   4    74 ms    34 ms    37 ms  194.228.78.232
  11.   5    88 ms    35 ms    32 ms  194.228.190.157
  12.   6    63 ms    38 ms    37 ms  194.228.188.224
  13.   7    72 ms    35 ms    38 ms  194.228.191.96
  14.   8   225 ms   232 ms    48 ms  prag-b3-link.telia.net [213.248.92.137]
  15.   9   238 ms    44 ms    35 ms  be1299.ccr21.prg01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.14.217]
  16. 10    66 ms    57 ms    56 ms  be3027.ccr41.ham01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.205]
  17. 11    54 ms    67 ms    46 ms  be2815.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.38.205]
  18. 12    81 ms    57 ms    56 ms  be2519.rcr21.b015960-1.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.3.98]
  19. 13    78 ms    76 ms    60 ms  transip-bv.demarc.cogentco.com [149.6.128.66]
  20. 14   135 ms    58 ms    59 ms  e1-a7.r1.ams0.transip.net [157.97.168.0]
  21. 15   103 ms   130 ms    68 ms  r1.s2.ams4.transip.net [77.72.151.123]
  22. 16    69 ms   171 ms    54 ms  s2.l9.ams4.transip.net [77.72.151.77]
  23. 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  24. 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  25. 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  26. 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  27. 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  28. 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  29. 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  30. 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  31. 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  32. 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  33. 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  34. 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  35. 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  36. 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  37.  
  38. Trace complete.
  39.  
  40. C:\Users\cvrk>
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« Last Edit: January 01, 2018, 04:49:44 pm by xaver13 »
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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2018, 10:03:07 pm »
Maybe it's time to flag a site-administrator to check the blocklist for lazarus-ide.org. Maybe an entry was set too wide.

All these traces stop at lazarus-ide.org.
(and are reproducible and work when used via proxy or other provider)

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Re: www.lazarus-ide.org and this forum won't open
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2018, 12:25:40 am »
It works from MGTS now. Yet still not from Beeline. Both MGTS and Beeline IPs where 37.x.x.x, just like this site which is 37.97.187.115. MGTS has now changed to 40.x.x.x. Hmm, could be an issue?
« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 12:27:44 am by regs »

 

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