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Graeme

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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2015, 12:58:24 pm »
No im not against Firebird,I like it but I want to hear about experience in real job from someone like Graeme .
Here was my out-of-the-box experience of MySQL - tested under FreeBSD, Linux and Windows.

http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,20826.msg121187.html#msg121187

I still stand with my statement: "MySQL is a joke!"
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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2015, 12:30:46 pm »
Hello.
I made another tool for Firebird. Unfortunately, I do not have time to continue working on it. So I am considering sharing program sources.
If you find a person who will continue the work on TurboBird, then maybe this person will also want to develop this project.
My project is an application for analyzing database statistics.
home page: http://fb-tools.net
There is web-based version of the project (in early stage, proof of concept):
http://stats.fb-tools.net
and example statistics:
http://stats.fb-tools.net/6c24a133b8fac0b6

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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2015, 06:26:06 pm »
Taaz has become the leader of TurboBird development, and he has moved the project source to sourceforge:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/turbobird/

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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2015, 07:21:00 pm »
Taaz has become the leader of TurboBird development, and he has moved the project source to sourceforge:

Thanks to some threads here I'm becoming curious about the possibility to use Firebird instead of Sqlite, but moving, these days, to SourceForge is a little bit strange.  %)

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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2015, 12:53:45 pm »
Taaz has become the leader of TurboBird development, and he has moved the project source to sourceforge:

Thanks to some threads here I'm becoming curious about the possibility to use Firebird instead of Sqlite, but moving, these days, to SourceForge is a little bit strange.  %)
why do you know any other site with better or longer track record? They have proven they are here to stay and as far as I can see they are not going anywhere any time soon. What is so strange about solid and stable service?

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As a thank you for the community's support so far I invite any one interested on the project to pm me with any questions, observations, wishes, complains or what ever else you want. I'm also looking for some one with any experience setting up a custom site in sourceforge that has some time.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2015, 02:12:32 pm by taazz »
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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2015, 09:01:51 pm »
why do you know any other site with better or longer track record? They have proven they are here to stay and as far as I can see they are not going anywhere any time soon. What is so strange about solid and stable service?

Well, recent problem which lasted quite long show that their service is not as solid and reliable as it was.

Moreover, after years of providing nice service they commercialized a lot, pages are full of ads, change of ownership, bundling malware/adware with installers  upto taking over accounts of open-source projects...

Of course, you're free to use whatever suits you and I'm also curious about the project becoming  interested for Firebird, but I simply do not know about any project moving to SF these days (I'm at SF since 2003), just the opposite.  ;)

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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2015, 02:46:41 pm »
I have started development of TurboBird in 2009, and since long time I didn't add any important feature to it. Lately BigChimp has helped this project by making huge internal redesign and adding new features.

Due to my starting of my own software development company I didn't find any time to return to this project, specially that I moved to MySQL instead of FireBird. MySQL has a good solution for master/slave redundancy and has ability to work with huge data.

http://code.sd/products/turbobird/

If anyone want to take the ownership of development of this project it will be more than welcome. It is available in GitHub:
https://github.com/motaz/turbobird


For firebird side there will be an engine based  replication solution in firebird 4.0 (2016) , there are also third party solutions
(you  need to register to download firebird dev day 2015 Dimitry Yemanov paper : FDD-2015-dyemanov-ha.pdf)
http://www.firebase.com.br/downloads.php?id=393

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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2015, 08:45:49 pm »
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I moved to MySQL instead of FireBird. MySQL has a good solution for master/slave redundancy and has ability to work with huge data.
Because you have exprence I want to ask why you moved to MySQL? FireBird clame that it can work with huge data and its very ligh.

Why not PostgreSQL?  I have used Firebird, mysql and Postgresql beats them all.  I even wrote a PostgreSQL admin tool that I lost interest in after 10 years :-)
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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2015, 04:04:24 am »
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I moved to MySQL instead of FireBird. MySQL has a good solution for master/slave redundancy and has ability to work with huge data.
Because you have exprence I want to ask why you moved to MySQL? FireBird clame that it can work with huge data and its very ligh.

Why not PostgreSQL?  I have used Firebird, mysql and Postgresql beats them all.  I even wrote a PostgreSQL admin tool that I lost interest in after 10 years :-)
1) Doesn't have and embed version.
2) Doesn't have a single file database
3) Its not suited for single user application (pim, contact manager, personal accounts)

You get the point I guess. Technickal superiority is not the only thing that one uses to choose. for example a motorcycle is technically  superior to a bicycle but I do not thing that you would buy one for your 5 year old.

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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2015, 08:00:41 am »
I have a system that contains two databases, MySQL and Firebird. MySQL table reaches about 50 Million record and it works fine, but Firebird becomes very slow and hang the system up when the table reaches hundreds of thousands of records, also I noticed that it consumes more CPU than MySQL.

Firebird is working well out of the box . This is not the case for big data.

In my company we host a client database with 144 Tables, which is 67GB and has 96774338  records in one ( out of the 6 biggest ) table ( just runned a query )  . It's a FB 2.1.7 CS running in a Linux box with 6GB RAM in a RAID 10 ( 6 HDD 7200 no SSD ).  Running without a glitch for " 08:42:47 up 78 days, " and top reports :

Code: Pascal  [Select]
  1. top - 08:44:31 up 78 days, 20:14,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.16, 0.26
  2. Tasks: 129 total,   1 running, 128 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
  3. Cpu0  :  0.3%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
  4. Cpu1  :  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.3%id,  1.7%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
  5. Mem:   5992928k total,  5876516k used,   116412k free,   127236k buffers
  6. Swap:  6127612k total,   193044k used,  5934568k free,  4112440k cached
  7.  
  8.   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
  9. 19762 root      20   0  859m 829m  19m S  0.0 14.2   2:35.25 fb_inet_server
  10. 14399 root      20   0  477m  69m  19m S  0.0  1.2   0:00.78 fb_inet_server
  11. 14402 root      20   0  477m  68m  19m S  0.0  1.2   0:00.80 fb_inet_server
  12. 14388 root      20   0  477m  68m  19m S  0.0  1.2   0:00.79 fb_inet_server
  13. 12618 root      20   0  477m  68m  19m S  0.0  1.2   0:00.94 fb_inet_server
  14. 17727 root      20   0  477m  68m  19m S  0.0  1.2   0:00.51 fb_inet_server
  15. 14305 root      20   0  477m  68m  19m S  0.0  1.2   0:00.82 fb_inet_server
  16. 19374 root      20   0  477m  68m  18m S  0.0  1.2   0:00.36 fb_inet_server
  17. 19432 root      20   0  477m  68m  18m S  0.0  1.2   0:00.37 fb_inet_server
  18. 12633 root      20   0  477m  60m  19m S  0.0  1.0   0:00.94 fb_inet_server
  19.  8095 root      20   0  859m  51m  19m S  0.0  0.9   0:26.24 fb_inet_server
  20.  4412 root      20   0  469m  50m  19m S  0.0  0.9   0:04.42 fb_inet_server
  21. 11823 root      20   0 68940  37m  19m S  0.0  0.6   0:12.92 fb_inet_server
  22. 16535 root      20   0 61820  27m  18m S  0.0  0.5   0:10.25 fb_inet_server
  23.  1511 root      20   0  468m  20m  17m S  0.0  0.3   1:57.61 fb_inet_server
  24.  

Maybe you should read http://ib-aid.com/en/articles/more-details-about-1-7-terabyte-firebird-sql-database/ ...

regards,
« Last Edit: October 16, 2015, 08:07:03 am by Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis »
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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2018, 01:44:01 am »
Hello
motaz/taaz the turbobird project is stalled ?

- After 4 years, I pull request a fix for turbobird  :). (issue #33)
  in https://github.com/motaz/turbobird
- The binaries for linux 32 are from an old version, not 1.2.0

Regards
« Last Edit: July 09, 2018, 01:47:41 am by clauslack »

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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2018, 09:13:47 am »
Hello
motaz/taaz the turbobird project is stalled ?
On my part yes its stalled. Hopefully I'll be able to continue one day but it needs a lot of rework and I might end up scrapping it altogether for a new beginning.
- After 4 years, I pull request a fix for turbobird  :) . (issue #33)
  in https://github.com/motaz/turbobird
- The binaries for linux 32 are from an old version, not 1.2.0

Regards
I never made any releases so only motaz can answer those.
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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2018, 01:05:25 pm »
For TurboBird 32 bit Linux, currently I have only 64-bit version of Linux.
For 32 bit Linux compilation you could get the source of 1.2.1 from GitHub:

https://github.com/motaz/turbobird

and you need Synapse package to compile it

http://wiki.freepascal.org/Synapse

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Re: TurboBird needs new owner
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2018, 04:12:25 pm »
Thanks.

Can you apply the pull request?
« Last Edit: July 09, 2018, 05:06:55 pm by clauslack »

 

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