Lazarus website access denied

[vins]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but I've been unable to open the website for probably 3-4 years. I though the project is not maintained anymore.

I just logged to my server in Canada and site loads fine - what?!

So anyway - seems like this site won't load on Time Warner Cable in New York

The domain pings fine but when I try to load the site I get:  "This webpage is not available - ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT"

http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ - hasn't worked in years.
http://www.freepascal.org/ - always loads.

I'm confused :/

[Basile B.]

Have you tried to use another DNS service to solve the domain names ? E.g not your ISP default, i think for example to https://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/opendns-ip-addresses/

[BitBangerUSA]

pinged the URL? if that works, methinks it's not a DNS problem with your ISP.
still, i'd try a different DNS provider as BBasile suggests.

using Chrome? Goggling suggests that is not an uncommon error with Chrome...

no workee for 3-4 years? decidedly odd...

[edvard]

Sounds like trouble with DNS.

1- Have you been using the same computer for all 3-4 years? or have you upgraded/switched in that time?
If so, make sure there isn't a Hosts file that is blocking it.
-On Windows: Check c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
If there isn't a hosts file, or there is but the lazarus website isn't being redirected, try flushing your DNS cache; Open a command window and enter

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ipconfig /flushdns-On Linux and Mac OSX, check /etc/hosts

2- Have you tried another DNS (EDIT: I see BBasile beat me to it... )
If you don't already know how, the subject of changing your DNS is a bit more complex than I should go into here, and it depends on if your router or your computer are setting the DNS path.  A quick internet search will tell you all  you need to know, and there are plenty of public DNS servers to choose from.

[JuhaManninen]

http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ - hasn't worked in years.

That one is forwarded to our new URL now :
  http://www.lazarus-ide.org/
Does it work for you?
The new URL was set up only few months ago. It does not explain why the page hasn't worked in years.

[vins]

Here is what I know:
-Neither website loads.
-I have and tried on multiple computers. (Windows 8.1, latest Linux Mint, latest ElementaryOS)
-Different browser - IE 11, Firefox 38.0.5, Chrome 43
-I've tried different DNS (I also just tried the OpenDNS someone posted) - no difference

I can ping the site but it wont load:
http://violin.ninja/temp/imgs/laznoaccess/pic01.png
http://violin.ninja/temp/imgs/laznoaccess/pic02.png

However - site loads on the same network(router) on my Android phone.
Site doesn't load at work (different ISP - Windows 8.1, Firefox/IE/Chrome)

I thought the server and the client may not have the same cipher support for the SSL handshake. I guessed since the Heartbleed bug some protocols were disabled.
But the website doesn't have a certificate - so that's not the case.

http://freepascal.org/ and http://wiki.freepascal.org/ loads fine.  (the forum doesn't)

I'm really surprised no one else have issues. Or they just can't raise them since the site doesn't load?

[rvk]

It's indeed strange.
You could always check if a site is online for other with a third party service like is it down right now (there are lots of these sites).

On your Android... are you connected to WiFi or Mobile data via your mobile service? If you are on the same router via WiFi as you other computers it's even stranger that it does work there.

And, yes, SSL shouldn't matter because the site is just http (not https).

Could it be that number of hops is too large? For me lazarus-ide.org gives 9 hops. And if, with Android, you're on cell-data, you could check the numbers of hops on that device. (with traceroute for example)

Could you also check the number of hops for freepascal.org and wiki.freepascal.org too? (7 and 15 for me)


(and what do you get when you do "telnet lazarus-ide.org 80" and press a letter and return?)

[taazz]

Does your 9 hops tracert have 2 hops from lazarus-ide.org on the bottom as his too?

[rvk]

Does your 9 hops tracert have 2 hops from lazarus-ide.org on the bottom as his too?

Yes.

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C:\Users\Rik>tracert lazarus-ide.org

Tracing route to lazarus-ide.org [80.123.225.56]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     2 ms    <1 ms  fritz.box [192.168.1.254]
  2    20 ms    23 ms    20 ms  lo0.dr14.d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.218]
  3    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  1415.ae3.xr4.1d12.xs4all.net [194.109.7.157]
  4    26 ms    19 ms    20 ms  0.so-0-2-0.xr1.tc2.xs4all.net [194.109.5.10]
  5    40 ms    40 ms    41 ms  80.249.209.207
  6    41 ms    43 ms    41 ms  195.3.70.49
  7    44 ms    43 ms    43 ms  GRAZBC10-AUX10.highway.telekom.at [195.3.68.50]
  8    49 ms    43 ms    44 ms  mailer.lazarus.freepascal.org [80.123.225.56]
  9    44 ms    44 ms    43 ms  mailer.lazarus.freepascal.org [80.123.225.56]

Trace complete.


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C:\Users\Rik>ping lazarus-ide.org

Pinging lazarus-ide.org [80.123.225.56] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.123.225.56: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.123.225.56: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.123.225.56: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.123.225.56: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 80.123.225.56:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 43ms, Maximum = 44ms, Average = 43ms


[taazz]

Does your 9 hops tracert have 2 hops from lazarus-ide.org on the bottom as his too?

Yes.

Is it just me or is this a bit weird? Isn't tracert suppose to stop when its destination is reached?
by the way I only have 11 hops for the same and I checked with various sites physically close to my location and didn't dropped bellow 9  hops on differrnt isps even inside the same isp I get 5 hops minimum so I guess hops is not the problem. But something weird is going on, I remember that tracert was reporting only one hop for the final destination but that was on winxp and something might have changed on the tracert code though I doubt it, I'm going to try it from a linux vm too.

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tracert -d  www.lazarus-ide.org

Tracing route to lazarus-ide.org [80.123.225.56]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    17 ms    17 ms    21 ms  80.106.108.43
  3    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  79.128.246.1
  4    33 ms    20 ms    18 ms  79.128.227.169
  5    21 ms    18 ms    19 ms  62.75.3.105
  6    61 ms    61 ms    61 ms  62.75.5.42
  7    86 ms    85 ms    85 ms  195.66.224.211
  8    86 ms    86 ms    86 ms  195.3.70.185
  9    89 ms    88 ms    88 ms  195.3.118.22
 10    91 ms    91 ms    91 ms  80.123.225.56
 11    91 ms    93 ms    92 ms  80.123.225.56

Trace complete. so half a second just for the round trip. Is a bit wasteful.

[rvk]

Is it just me or is this a bit weird? Isn't tracert suppose to stop when its destination is reached?
by the way I only have 11 hops for the same and I checked with various sites physically close to my location and didn't dropped bellow 9  hops on differrnt isps even inside the same isp I get 5 hops minimum so I guess hops is not the problem. But something weird is going on, I remember that tracert was reporting only one hop for the final destination but that was on winxp and something might have changed on the tracert code though I doubt it, I'm going to try it from a linux vm too.

It's not for all sites that the last hop is duplicated. In fact it's usually not.

My thought was when it reached 20 hops maybe the connection gets in trouble. But I guess others have 20 or more hops as well and have no trouble.

(tracert to the main page of my service provider)

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C:\Users\Rik>tracert -4 xs4all.nl

Tracing route to xs4all.nl [194.109.6.93]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  fritz.box [192.168.1.254]
  2    21 ms    45 ms    21 ms  lo0.dr14.d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.218]
  3    19 ms    19 ms    19 ms  1415.ae3.xr4.1d12.xs4all.net [194.109.7.157]
  4    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  xs4all.nl [194.109.6.93]

Trace complete.

(tracert to other major service provider in NL)

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C:\Users\Rik>tracert -4 ziggo.nl

Tracing route to ziggo.nl [213.46.237.24]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  fritz.box [192.168.1.254]
  2    21 ms    20 ms    21 ms  lo0.dr14.d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.218]
  3    21 ms    19 ms    19 ms  1313.ae3.xr3.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.7.125]
  4    20 ms    19 ms    20 ms  0.so-1-2-0.xr1.tc2.xs4all.net [194.109.5.14]
  5    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  upc.xs4all.net [194.109.7.210]
  6    23 ms    20 ms    20 ms  84.116.135.205
  7    22 ms    21 ms    20 ms  84.116.244.105
  8    20 ms     *       20 ms  213.46.237.24

Trace complete.

(tracert to comcast.com)

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C:\Users\Rik>tracert -4 comcast.com

Tracing route to comcast.com [69.252.80.75]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  fritz.box [192.168.1.254]
  2    20 ms    42 ms    20 ms  lo0.dr14.d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.218]
  3    21 ms    19 ms    19 ms  1413.ae3.xr4.1d12.xs4all.net [194.109.7.121]
  4    19 ms    19 ms    20 ms  asd2-rou-1043.NL.eurorings.net [134.222.93.144]
  5    19 ms    19 ms    19 ms  asd2-rou-1022.NL.eurorings.net [134.222.199.69]
  6   115 ms   136 ms   116 ms  chg-s1-rou-1041.US.eurorings.net [134.222.233.21]
  7   112 ms   113 ms   113 ms  te-0-3-0-12-pe04.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [23.30.206.173]
  8   114 ms   116 ms   116 ms  he-2-5-0-0-cr01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.87.125]
  9   116 ms   114 ms   116 ms  be-10206-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.225]
 10   116 ms   116 ms   116 ms  he-0-18-0-1-ar03.ivyland.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.95.2]
 11   118 ms   118 ms   118 ms  ae100-ur12-d.newcastlerdc.de.panjde.comcast.net [68.85.159.146]
 12   119 ms   118 ms   118 ms  te-5-4-ur02-d.newcastlerdc.de.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.153.94]
 13   118 ms   118 ms   118 ms  urlrw01.cable.comcast.com [69.252.80.75]

Trace complete.

Mmmmm, in my virtualbox (Mint) it seems to be struggling:

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rik@rik-VirtualBox ~ $ traceroute -n -4 lazarus-ide.org
traceroute to lazarus-ide.org (80.123.225.56), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.254  1.221 ms  1.949 ms  1.881 ms
 2  194.109.5.218  21.137 ms  21.781 ms  22.635 ms
 3  194.109.7.161  23.279 ms 194.109.7.121  25.347 ms 194.109.7.157  25.293 ms
 4  194.109.5.10  26.089 ms 194.109.5.14  26.623 ms  29.157 ms
 5  80.249.209.207  48.606 ms  49.507 ms  50.301 ms
 6  195.3.70.209  50.955 ms 195.3.70.157  52.803 ms 195.3.70.53  52.933 ms
 7  195.3.118.22  55.096 ms 195.3.74.70  44.095 ms 195.3.118.110  44.363 ms
 8  * * *
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rik@rik-VirtualBox ~ $

Although I can reach lazarus-ide.org without any problems and tcptraceroute does work:

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rik@rik-VirtualBox ~ $ sudo tcptraceroute lazarus-ide.org
traceroute to lazarus-ide.org (80.123.225.56), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.1.254)  0.557 ms  1.222 ms  1.154 ms
 2  lo0.dr14.d12.xs4all.net (194.109.5.218)  26.785 ms  26.737 ms  27.448 ms
 3  1313.ae3.xr3.3d12.xs4all.net (194.109.7.125)  20.500 ms 1413.ae3.xr4.1d12.xs4all.net (194.109.7.121)  21.213 ms 1415.ae3.xr4.1d12.xs4all.net (194.109.7.157)  22.611 ms
 4  0.so-1-2-0.xr1.tc2.xs4all.net (194.109.5.14)  21.783 ms 0.so-0-2-0.xr1.tc2.xs4all.net (194.109.5.10)  22.437 ms  22.365 ms
 5  80.249.209.207 (80.249.209.207)  44.183 ms  44.748 ms  45.435 ms
 6  195.3.118.157 (195.3.118.157)  45.235 ms GRAX2-KLAX1.highway.telekom.at (195.3.68.137)  41.420 ms AUX10-IIX11.highway.telekom.at (195.3.70.105)  42.056 ms
 7  195.3.74.70 (195.3.74.70)  45.051 ms  44.351 ms AUX3-LIX2.highway.telekom.at (195.3.68.170)  44.421 ms
 8  mailer.lazarus.freepascal.org (80.123.225.56)  44.458 ms  44.465 ms  45.184 ms
 9  mailer.lazarus.freepascal.org (80.123.225.56) <syn,ack>  45.150 ms  44.829 ms  44.744 ms
rik@rik-VirtualBox ~ $


Couldn't the duplicate last entries have to do with internal redirection behind the last router (of which the public IP is  80.123.225.56) ??

(or something like this).

[vins]

The only think I can come up with is that the website is not IPv6 ready. Other websites like google/yahoo give me IPv6 address when I ping them.

However I tried disabling the IPv6 protocol and it still doesn't work.

The Android is on the WiFi on the same router.
I don't think it's the number of hops. I mean they should be the same on the PC and the Phone - they both go through the same router.
I'll do some testing on the laptop when I go home.

Seems to load at work on Verizon:

C:\Users\violin>tracert lazarus-ide.org

Tracing route to lazarus-ide.org [80.123.225.56]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    27 ms    30 ms    34 ms  lo0-100.BFLONY-VFTTP-302.verizon-gni.net [72.75.232.1]
  2     4 ms     2 ms     2 ms  T0-5-0-6.BFLONY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.27.188]
  3    66 ms    59 ms    58 ms  ae6-0.NY325-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.209.36]
  4    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  0.ae4.BR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.23.181]
  5    20 ms    18 ms    19 ms  204.255.168.118
  6    92 ms    90 ms    90 ms  sl-crs1-lon-0-8-3-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.165]
  7    93 ms    92 ms    92 ms  sl-bb21-par-0-14-0-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.70]
  8   101 ms   103 ms   104 ms  sl-bb20-fra-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.148]
  9   107 ms   107 ms   110 ms  sl-crs1-fra-0-0-0-0.sprintlink.net [217.147.96.74]
 10   116 ms   116 ms   116 ms  217.147.110.90
 11   129 ms   129 ms   129 ms  195.3.70.45
 12   127 ms   125 ms   126 ms  AUX3-LIX2.highway.telekom.at [195.3.68.170]
 13   126 ms   126 ms   126 ms  mailer.lazarus.freepascal.org [80.123.225.56]
 14   126 ms   126 ms   126 ms  mailer.lazarus.freepascal.org [80.123.225.56]

[rvk]

Seems to load at work on Verizon:

And that one is 14 hops

If one of your hops (on the site where you have trouble) uses the RIP protocol every route with more than 15 hops will be dropped. But in that case it's strange your Android-device doesn't have this problem.

Could you check, at the problem location, if other sites which you can access, also have up to 20 hops?

[kinjo]

Here’s the mail I got recently

Hello,
Thank you for the updated status of the issue. Let us try the best we can to resolve your issue.
 
We understand that you are getting an error message (This webpage is not available) when you try to access website. We also noted that this issue also persists with other internet browsers.
Share this information to assist you further.
--Have you installed a new application (firewall or antivirus) on your computer?
If you use a proxy server, check your proxy settings or contact your network administrator to make sure the proxy server is working. If you don’t believe you should be using a proxy server, adjust your proxy settings: Go to the Chrome menu > Settings > + Show advanced settings > Change proxy settings… > LAN Settings and deselect the “Use a proxy server for your LAN” checkbox.
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